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  • Frustrated...where do I go next?

    Hi! Looking for some opinions...

    I restarted a 14 day boot camp the end of last month per the book to lose 4 sizes. I had lost roughly 20 inches by that point after doing BWO+ roughly every other day.

    I’m stuck though - haven’t lost much more than the initial 20 inches and almost no weight. I’ve done some sort of TTAPP every other day since the end of that second boot camp. I’m mostly keto but I cheat a lot lol and I’m still
    nursing my 10 month old.

    I’m wondering if I need to change up my diet or pick a different workout or both.

    what has been most successful for all of you? Diet and workout wise?

    I have other DVDs I just don’t know what to do... I have tempo arms, lower 3, torso, and I think just the regular workouts at tempo (8 and 10 reps), plus SATI. Should I rotate those in? Most days I only have time for the BWO+ so that has been my go to. I was thinking of adding some yoga and rebounding in on the alternate days...

    I really wanted this program to be what got me all the way to goal so I think I just need to figure out the best path forward.

    Thanks in advance!

  • #2
    In my opinion, for as long as you are still nursing, you are not going to lose the water reserves for nursing. Did your ob/gyn told you that you will have at least 10 lbs of maternal reserve until you are finally done with nursing? Mine told me the first postpartum visit and told me not to go crazy about losing weight back to pre-pregnancy stage. So, first thing first, set up a realistic goal.

    Please inform you measurement change on the spots of the 20 inches loss.

    Diet-wise, it is quite ok that you cheat on Keto is you are nursing for as long as you are full-time nursing. However, when the baby started table food and only snacking on your just once a day, do not cheat anymore. I found myself lost weight and inches rapidly without workouts when I was nursing my two sons (3 months to 6 months is when the motherly reserves depleted rapidly).

    There are many factors in inch loss and weight loss, have you taken pictures of your progress? Even we weight the same, with the workouts, there is the muscle definitions, tightening and toning, that your picture will reflect better on your change. If you have gained muscles which you never had before, you will see no noticeable change on scale but your are actually slimming up.

    Workout wise, there is no way to advise you how to change up if we don't know if you are activating and if you really have the time and energy to do more. Certainly, we are not going to advise you to do more workouts than you can handle when you are taking care of an infant, nursing, and who knows if you are working full time or if you have many young children that you are taking care of, of if you are also home schooling.

    Being a woman, having the peace of mind and good sleep is important to lose weight, get healthy, lose water retention. Honestly, I did not have very good sleep until after my sons stopped nursing (which they were around 2.5 years old each).

    Let's analyzed you situation and your progress adequately first before you switch to something that you think you can get quick results but ruin your health.

    In addition, if you have any medical condition or child has any medical condition, the food that you actually eat (not just give me the term Keto) daily will be a good start. Also, what else do you do (work or school), your sleeping pattern, if you are under stress, etc.

    I lost 20+ inches the first month I did T-Tapp too, and I was 43 years old, my second son was 3 years old (I stopped nursing for 4-5 months already) and my old diet and workout (low carb and 1 hour each workday at the gym) yield no results except injuries to my knees for repetitive motions. Then with T-Tapp, I lost 2+ sizes within a month when I did not even know how to do the workout and I stopped eating strict low carb when I started T-Tapp. Within 3 -6 months, I think I lost more inches and weight than my normal size.
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    • #3
      Since you're nursing your baby, I would not mess around much with the eating at this point. You could alternate Basic Workout with Step Away the Inches, as it is another short workout.

      Do you have any adrenal or thyroid issues that you know of? Often after losing inches the body needs to regroup and rebalance. Sometimes internal healing is going on and it won't show on the outside. Other times you are reshaping without losing any inches. Yes, that's possible! Have you taken pictures?

      Finally, can I encourage you to put the scales away? They really are not going to be a good gauge of how you are doing. You could be losing fat and gaining muscle and the scales stay the same or even show a gain. Go by how your clothing fits, your health and other things that you can't really measure, like better sleep, less brain fog, etc. I really encourage you to take pictures. Often we can see changes there that don't show up any other way!
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      • #4
        Thank you both!

        I should take pics. I will try to remember to do that with the tripod so it is the same to always compare.

        I am not as concerned with the scale as I am with the inches. It felt like I was at a standstill inch wise for the past few weeks. I just wondered if I was doing something wrong. Like maybe my body had gotten so used to the 15 minute workout at Rehab level that I should do something else. Even though I LOVE that workout.

        I know that nursing kind of changes the game for me a bit, but at 10 months old, starting to eat purees and finger foods twice a day, I thought I was "safe" to start trying to lose more. I think my body is rebelling against it though.

        I prefer to do my workout fasted, first thing in the morning. After about the third week of keto plut BWO+ I had some weird low blood sugar symptoms so I started adding carbs in. Found out I was staying in ketosis, with really high levels in urine, for a long time. Could be a combo of the nursing and the workout and keto.

        I have lost the majority of the inches from my pecs and waist. My bust stayed about the same. I am shocked at much I have lost from my hips considering the front part of my belly, below my belly button, is still pretty numb and doesn't seem to respond at all when I try to do organs in during Box.

        My diet is USUALLY (when I am not cheating):
        2 cups fatty coffee - butter, organic heavy cream, nut pods, stevia, occasionally some collagen protein
        Cashews and walnuts
        salad or cooked veggies (in butter) with some kind of meat, sometimes with cheese
        cheese stick with veggies or grass fed jerky
        dinner is leftovers from lunch or sometimes random snacks (my husband works afternoons and I only have child care until I get off work, so it's hardest for me to eat a proper dinner)

        Yesterday, I did wear a pair of brand new, fresh out of the dryer, jeans 2 sizes smaller than when I first started in July. I know it's working, I was just thrown by the lack of change in measurements for this month.

        I guess maybe I should just worry about how my clothes fit and how I feel, ignoring all the rest. The keto was great for the brain fog, but I can't risk the light headedness again when I have the baby to care for. I think I will try more paleo than keto - add in a sweet potato here and there and some fruit.

        I have not had my adrenals or my thyroid checked since I had the baby. I was curious about post partum thyroiditis since I was down to my pre pregnancy weight without trying at 6 weeks post, plus my cycles started again, plus I had quite a bit of hair loss even though I was exclusively breastfeeding/pumping. All of it seemed to even out though, symptom wise. I was on an adrenal support supplement pre-pregnancy, but all I take now are minerals and prenatals for nursing.

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        • #5
          You food seems to be fine... Just make sure you add in fatty bone broth that has collagen. It will help with no saggy skin and also will prevent excessive hair loss. In any event, when the estrogen tapered off after pregnancy, the hair growth due to the increase estrogen will fall out... LOL, I am waiting for my menopause hair loss when the estrogen fall down to next to nothing. It is not just the thyroid, it is nutrient and estrogen too. In the nutrition area, there is a Wahl's diet thread, and there is a more specific Keto under Dr. Wahl, look at some of the requirements for the fermented vegetables, the organ meat, the seaweed, those will be a great add on to make sure you are nutrient-wise well taken care of. Chinese always feed the pregnant mother and nursing mother really well, as you are not just feeding yourself, you are feeding the baby too.

          Inch loss and weight loss is never linear, if your fresh new jeans fits, then it works. It takes a while for the body to break down old protein as in loose and excessive skin, but if you keep up with the workout, keep your nutrients up (including collagen) you will burn the fat, the skin will be tight (no skin removal needed). If you want to, add the dry skin brushing the T-Tapp way (there is a DVD) and the store has skin brush.

          I did mention that I stopped low carb after starting T-Tapp, right? As long as you are healthy and you have muscles, you don't need to do ultra low carb. Yes, I know about the low sugar response, the hungry dizziness in the early pregnancy... I have that each time I start a T-Tapp bootcamp, so I will eat more and more carb during bootcamp to counter that.

          Take pictures and take more pictures with the baby regardless of your weight. I regret not taking more "fat" pictures.

          BWO+ with consistency and good activation is good enough! My sister lost 4-5 sizes within one year for just doing Tempo Basic 5-6 times a week (she throws in some AL and DD from time to time). She did T-Tapp very consistently when she started because of the pain management. The size loss was a bonus.

          Maybe you want to take Trisch's defeat the recti diastasis class along with the skin brushing, I think the sensation and nerve will come back. Anyway, ribs up and pull up and in your upper and mid abs whenever you hear "tuck" from Teresa.
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          • #6
            I only have a couple things to add, as I am 52 so my baby is 29 and when I nursed her it didn't go well. Anyhow, I do really enjoy reading your posts to see if I can learn anything or interject something

            Your body isn't rebelling, it's healing. T-Tapp and Keto heal from the inside first so, as Trisch stated, you lost a good bit then your body needs to readjust and regroup. I have been T-Tapping for a year and a half and haven't lost anything. I have gained less back pain and hip/groin pain though and less menopause symptoms. I have also been intermittent fasting for about 4 or 5 weeks now and am just starting to feel like maybe my pants are becoming a bit loser. I love IF so it is ok, plus I know the slower I lose, the more easily it will stay off.

            As Trisch said, drop the scale. I know you also said you were less concerned with it, but truly I wouldn't weigh AT ALL. It is a big fat liar and your weight may go up and down with T-Tapp from shedding fat and gaining muscle. Plus Keto may make you gain muscle too, which is a good thing. I have heard so many people say lately that they take pictures instead of weighing. Even if you measure, the proof is in the pictures ::wink wink::

            Trisch's class is actually called (Aurora xoxo) Defeating Diastasis. It is a class for up to 13 weeks (depending on your choice) where you learn how to close the abdominal gap (diastasis recti) caused by being pregnant. I only had a small gap, which is almost totally closed, but what I gained is more awareness of my abdominal muscles. I have truly truly loved this class.

            You are doing great!!

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            Last edited by AlisaJDrury; 09-04-2019, 05:24 PM.
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            • #7
              I'm the odd one out but I have huge reservations about the keto diet. I don't think it's sustainable for life, for most people, and every single person I know has regained all the weight as soon as they went off it. You know your body, best though, and I only mentioned this because you asked if we had thoughts on diet.

              Personally, I like tracking my food in My Fitness Pal and I aim for 40/30/30 carbs/fat/protein but many days I'm 50/25/25. I don't obsess about it. But I do focus on protein at each meal. I focus on whole foods most days.

              I'm also nursing. My "baby" is 3.5 now so she only nurses at bedtime. But that first year i did lose a lot of inches. But it was SLOW. At first I was tempted to give up. But I thought of my health and the example I was giving my children.

              Do you own SATI or PPW? I love both of those because they really get my heartrate up.

              I also agree that your body isn't rebelling, it's communicating. It can be so hard with so many diet experts telling us what to do but, really, feeding our bodies doesn't have to be complicated and we don't need experts in most situations.

              I can elaborate more on why I'm not a fan of keto if you want but it sounds like you're ready to try something else, anyway. Sweet potatoes are wonderful! So are fruits!
              Last edited by Soliloquy72; 09-03-2019, 03:13 PM.
              Lisa. 46 years old.
              Homeschooling 4 great kids and nursing surprise toddler #5.
              T-Tapping since 2010, consistent since 2015!

              I got to meet and workout with Teresa in 2014. I am forever grateful to her and will never forget her.

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              • AlisaJDrury
                AlisaJDrury commented
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                You are so NOT the odd one LOL I LOVE reading your responses I have heard the same about Keto and do agree that it would be hard to sustain but have also heard people say they love it so idk. I am like you and am fine with tracking my food (keeps me accountable) but want to eat what I want or just focus on clean eating, not just a little protein and hardly any carbs. I believe they are all good for us. Right now I am IF (for five weeks now) and nothing is happening (I feel better and more in control of my food intake, but that is it) which is ok, if it is due to healing. I do believe this is something you could do for life, but not sure if I love it enough to do it forever. We will see.

            • #8

              Yesterday, I did wear a pair of brand new, fresh out of the dryer, jeans 2 sizes smaller than when I first started in July. I know it's working, I was just thrown by the lack of change in measurements for this month.
              Wow!!!! That's huge!!! Give yourself a pat on the back! You are doing great! Think long term. Think about sustainable habits for LIFE. You can find diets and workout plans that will get you skinny by Christmas. And then you'll gain it all back by the 4th of July. Think about the health and lifestyle you wish to model for your child for the next 18 years, and how you'd like to be healthy and active with your grandchildren. Then you'll make wise decisions.
              Lisa. 46 years old.
              Homeschooling 4 great kids and nursing surprise toddler #5.
              T-Tapping since 2010, consistent since 2015!

              I got to meet and workout with Teresa in 2014. I am forever grateful to her and will never forget her.

              My Instagram https://www.instagram.com/soliloquy72/

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              • #9
                Thank you all sooo much!! I appreciate the support and insight.

                I have to be honest and admit I went on a bit of a sugar bender after the Labor Fay holiday and I stopped working out. We still aren’t sleeping well and it has seemingly gotten worse. I’m at a loss of what to do for that but it meant I was taking every possibly bit of free time to either nap or get house work done.

                Regarding diet, I have noticed that each way of eating has its place depending on the season of my life. For example, low carb/keto is the only way I can lose or maintain when I don’t have time to sit down and enjoy a meal with enough presence to eat intuitively, nor do I have the time or concern to weigh my food items. Low carb has been very very good for my health and keto has been very restorative to many people that have lingering health issues. There was a time when I was much younger that plain old macro counting or we points did the trick. In this new parenthood working nursing mom with a husband that works afternoons and weekends season, low carb has been easiest and most reliable. Good fat makes good milk. Too much protein isn’t good for anybody. And carbs, other than those from non starchy veggies of a variety of colors, are usually unnecessary. Whether it’s from the nursing or the workouts I was doing, though, I have supplemented as needed when my blood sugar seemed to dip too much. (Too many hoedowns that weren’t necessary with such a clean diet I’m guessing)

                As for diastasis recti, I have done the self assessments I’ve seen online and don’t really have a gap thankfully. If the defeating DR program will help though I’ll try anything. Since I took a week off, I am starting another 2 week boot camp of BWO+ tomorrow. We are doing 1 year photos in october and I don’t want to look or feel like this.

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                • #10
                  If you don't have DR issue, then whatever you want to do to create more NK flow and awareness is fine. I don't think I had DR but my mid to upper abs was weak until I was mindful that the "belly button to spine" is not really just belly button, it is also all the abs muscles from below the ribs to the lowest point of the tail bone.

                  Once I got that concept straight, then it is just a matter of holding your activation. I found it easiest to do the abs activation when the movements are not as complicated and wild. That means floor workout like Critter Crunch Floor or Tempo Arms or Senior Fit. The focus you can allocate to the abs will be easier when you don't worry about the balancing act of the limbs much. Once you get your abs, then you can switch back to fancy moves in Total or movements with more limbs, left right brain, variations. Since you have Tempo Arms, then do Tempo Arms after you get yourself very familiar with the Organ in Place (abs) and finding your lats. I will link you up with abs and lats to practice before you go back to Instructional 1 again. If you are going to do a bootcamp, do an Instructional 1 bootcamp.

                  Skin brushing will also be great for the abs area to help the nerves.

                  I found low carb/Keto/Intermittent Fasting the easiest and most suitable for my body also. I can also slim down if I do straight fruit fast or vegetable fast... Seriously, I find almost every eating protocol works if you can stick with the fine print and the protocol when you are not sick with adrenal fatigue. The matter is whether you can stick with it for your own health condition. For a body that is already depleted in nutrients, eating nothing or eating the same nutrient deficiency way is definitely not going to work. It is boiled down to the actual food consumed regardless of the name of the "diet", almost every sustainable diet or protocol contain no additives, good fat, moderate protein, abundant of vibrant non starch vegetables.
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                  • #11
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                    • #12
                      Some healthy diet protocols were actually very bad for me. I was eating a 100% whole foods, low carb, starch free diet and I not only gained weight, my hair started falling out and I lost my short term memory. I was exhausted all the time. I found Paul Jaminet's website and book and realized I was not alone. It is common to have your health decline, rapidly, on a starch-free diet. Yet some people do really well on a starch free diet.

                      All my symptoms started going away as soon as I added rice and potatoes back into my diet, although it took a full year to feel like myself again.

                      I think it's really important to listen to your body and know when to say, "that eating plan just isn't working for me even though it is working great for my friend." We are the best expert on our own bodies.
                      Lisa. 46 years old.
                      Homeschooling 4 great kids and nursing surprise toddler #5.
                      T-Tapping since 2010, consistent since 2015!

                      I got to meet and workout with Teresa in 2014. I am forever grateful to her and will never forget her.

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                      • #13
                        Originally posted by Soliloquy72 View Post
                        Some healthy diet protocols were actually very bad for me. I was eating a 100% whole foods, low carb, starch free diet and I not only gained weight, my hair started falling out and I lost my short term memory. I was exhausted all the time. I found Paul Jaminet's website and book and realized I was not alone. It is common to have your health decline, rapidly, on a starch-free diet. Yet some people do really well on a starch free diet.

                        All my symptoms started going away as soon as I added rice and potatoes back into my diet, although it took a full year to feel like myself again.

                        I think it's really important to listen to your body and know when to say, "that eating plan just isn't working for me even though it is working great for my friend." We are the best expert on our own bodies.
                        I used Keto/Low Carb to get healthy, gain energy, and strip off weight in my late 40s. It worked great for about six years, but when peri-menopause hit, it exacerbated all that hormonal craziness, and I ended up with adrenal fatigue. For a couple of years, I still thought that low carb/keto was the way to go, until I started paying attention to authorities I had previously dismissed. Now I eat whole grains and occasionally some tubers. My health is returning, and I'm feeling better. I'm able to exercise longer and more vigorously without crashing BECAUSE I am eating starches again.

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                          I'm glad you're feeling better!
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