A year later, adrenal fatigue and 22W to stay :(

[BlessedMama]

{{{Rita}}} I love what I just read on fb--a df's wall had this from Tudor Bismarck Ministries: "You may be going through a 'drought season' right now BUT it's good for you so that the parasites in your life can die!"

As far as how much coconut oil, etc., I use about 1 TB, roughly. I just put a dollop in. Use what you have, do what you can, and let God perfect the rest!

Supplements, I mixed kelp and spirulina half and half and put in capsules, but you can buy both already in capsules. I also found rhodiola and royal jelly helpful. Vitamin C, a good brand (meaning not cheapie Wal-Mart brands). It doesn't have to be the most expensive, just not the really cheap stuff (usually is made from corn, anyway, and you probably want to avoid it!).

That and Teresa's alfalfa have been the only things I really stuck with. OH, and her Country Life Co-enzyme B vitamins. But any good B complex is good. I confess I've not been as good about the royal jelly and the B vitamins lately, and need to get those back in my routine!

I was taking a whole gob of things, but would get bogged down. So I pared it down to these. If you need it pared down further, I'd say:

spirulina
Good B complex
Royal Jelly
Good vitamin C, or even just bioflavanoids (acerola or amla/indian gooseberry)

Am I healed? I still have some "off days", especially if I am staying up late too many nights in a row! I seem to have a little dip during my cycle and just the day or two after. I was feeling off yesterday, but got to bed decently again last night (for me!) and am feeling better this morning. And considering I've slacked off a few things, supplement wise, that may be part of it.

One last thing--I quit stressing over taking all the right supplements and eating all the right things. Now, there is an element of we DO need to do what we know is helpful. But stressing over it or putting all my hope in it is just as counterproductive! My faith really has taken a turn in the past year to where I am learning to REST in God even more than I ever have. It goes beyond praying to Him and reading my Bible, etc. I don't want to turn this into a religion thread so you can PM or e-mail me to discuss that further. But it has helped me to let go--let go feeling responsible that I wasn't here when my mom died; let go that I didn't go see my dad more; let go of ALL the regrets of the past, even how I was raised, and instead to see that as part of what makes me who I am and what has contributed to the work/ministry I do now.

Baby steps! Start with the broth. Add a supplement or two as you can. I'd start with Royal Jelly if I was only going to do one!

Here are some links:

http://acerolacherryreview.com/

http://forum.t-tapp.com/showthread.p...nd-Royal-Jelly

HTH!

[just7]

{{{Rita}}} I love what I just read on fb--a df's wall had this from Tudor Bismarck Ministries: "You may be going through a 'drought season' right now BUT it's good for you so that the parasites in your life can die!"

Whew---I need to print that off and post it somewhere!!!

[mum4life]

Hey Rita.

I have chronic fatigue syndrome and weight issues right now as well. I am 23 years old, and just hate it! So, I unfortunately do kind of know what your are going through. I know whats it's like to just be exhausted day in and day out, to try to be healthy and still have so many issues despite my efforts! I also have gone GF, and feel a bit better.

But, Trisch is right, as usual! GAPS sounds like it's the way to go for you. I say this because of how many vitamins your are deficient in. When this happens it means your body is just having the toughest time absorbing the good things from your food. I think that this might have something to do with your weight as well. If your gut isn't happy, then most other things in your body are not going to be happy as well. I think this includes our body's ability to regulate our weight. I say give it a good solid 3 to 6 months and see if GAPS has done anything for you. At least you can check it off your list and say that you've tried it. That's what i will be doing.

I myself will be embarking on that journey next week. I bought the GAPS guidebook, and will be following that. That's all my budget would allow me to purchase, but it is supposedly VERY helpful to newbie GAPS people. I ordered it online, and am just waiting for it.It's going to be a challenge, but so is being sick everyday.

I hope you start finding relief soon Rita!

Hi Nicole,
Oh thanks for dropping in here! I am off to buy my first beef bones today. (wish me luck!) I don't think I could get this started without the support of you all that have either been there, or are going there.
I think I'm going to have to take the path Trisch mentioned with Bone Broth then Good fats then ferments. I love how simple that looks, even in print.
I've got a really involved boy, Joseph who is 8 years old and his autism is well, a handful. We are not sure if he's starting seizures or what, but he takes up alot of my time lately just keeping him 'interacting' as he wants to dissapear into himself, which is so sad.
Please pray for my boys if you all are praying ladies. Thank you!
I have the Guidebook for GAPS too and just pulled that out today. I think there might be more info in there on the bone broths.
I'm just hoping to get all the info I can on those three things; Bone Broths, Good Fats, and Ferments so I can get at least those three things going here.
I hope you'll keep up with us here Nicole and let me know how your doing. It's good to know I"m not making this journey alone.
I'm hoping that it will impact my boys for the better too.

Thanks,
~RIta

[mum4life]

My remarks are in red.

Thanks Jennifer, this is great!
Yeah, I can't get into the issue with 'my girls' but they caused us a ton of heartache (and worry) and now will have nothing to do with us. It's complicated, but caused our family enough stress that was the start of my severe adrenal fatigue. They are in God's hands.

Yes, I've heard of just whole chickens too. Problem is I would love to do organic, but our budget just won't allow me. Is there any way to get benefits from non-organic too.
I also never wanted to boil down chicken bones because of the little bones that could be left in the soup. Is there a way to do this to make sure no little bones get through ? I cheesecloth bag or just fine straining after ?

Yes, I do as much olive oil as I can. (need to get more now that I think of it) and will use up the coconut oil I have. I did find some ghee too and have a bottle unopened of that. Not cheap for sure. But will have to see if it's worth making or buying.

Your email here is a 'keeper' so am printing it out to save.

Thanks so much,
~Rita

[mum4life]

{{{Rita}}} I love what I just read on fb--a df's wall had this from Tudor Bismarck Ministries: "You may be going through a 'drought season' right now BUT it's good for you so that the parasites in your life can die!"

As far as how much coconut oil, etc., I use about 1 TB, roughly. I just put a dollop in. Use what you have, do what you can, and let God perfect the rest!

Supplements, I mixed kelp and spirulina half and half and put in capsules, but you can buy both already in capsules. I also found rhodiola and royal jelly helpful. Vitamin C, a good brand (meaning not cheapie Wal-Mart brands). It doesn't have to be the most expensive, just not the really cheap stuff (usually is made from corn, anyway, and you probably want to avoid it!).

That and Teresa's alfalfa have been the only things I really stuck with. OH, and her Country Life Co-enzyme B vitamins. But any good B complex is good. I confess I've not been as good about the royal jelly and the B vitamins lately, and need to get those back in my routine!

I was taking a whole gob of things, but would get bogged down. So I pared it down to these. If you need it pared down further, I'd say:

spirulina
Good B complex
Royal Jelly
Good vitamin C, or even just bioflavanoids (acerola or amla/indian gooseberry)

Am I healed? I still have some "off days", especially if I am staying up late too many nights in a row! I seem to have a little dip during my cycle and just the day or two after. I was feeling off yesterday, but got to bed decently again last night (for me!) and am feeling better this morning. And considering I've slacked off a few things, supplement wise, that may be part of it.

One last thing--I quit stressing over taking all the right supplements and eating all the right things. Now, there is an element of we DO need to do what we know is helpful. But stressing over it or putting all my hope in it is just as counterproductive! My faith really has taken a turn in the past year to where I am learning to REST in God even more than I ever have. It goes beyond praying to Him and reading my Bible, etc. I don't want to turn this into a religion thread so you can PM or e-mail me to discuss that further. But it has helped me to let go--let go feeling responsible that I wasn't here when my mom died; let go that I didn't go see my dad more; let go of ALL the regrets of the past, even how I was raised, and instead to see that as part of what makes me who I am and what has contributed to the work/ministry I do now.

Baby steps! Start with the broth. Add a supplement or two as you can. I'd start with Royal Jelly if I was only going to do one!

Here are some links:

http://acerolacherryreview.com/

http://forum.t-tapp.com/showthread.p...nd-Royal-Jelly

HTH!

Wow, Trisch, thanks for those links, I had no idea Royal Jelly did any help. Did you ever look at Dr. Wilson's list of supplements ? THinks like Magnesium are important as there is a dip in cortisol in the afternoon ?
This is one thing he said ? Just curious how well you take his recommendations, or even listen to them?

One thing for me is supplements are easy. I don't take a ton, but with my malapsorption issues, I take 2000mg VIt C daily. A multi, Omega 3, 6, 9; Alpha Lipoic acid, Magnesium and Iron (my levels are below reading)
I just can't get by right now without the supplements. And I just take them in the morning like a habit so it's easy.
It's all the other things like ttapp and such that is harder to implement.

It sure takes alot of work to keep ourselves running doesn it ? We are like a full time job when we get worn out ! LOL

I too have learned to let God and Let God. After all he has brought me through some frightening life events and pulled me through it. It has taught me alot to just breathe and enjoy God's company and just do what I can, not what I think I have too. Feel free to PM me too Trisch so we don't turn this thread into a religon one.

I know this all happens for a reason and the journey I"m on has been amazing for me for sure. I"m glad your all joining me.


~Rita

[just7]

Hugs--Rita!!! Thinking of you today and praying for you!

[mum4life]

Thank you Jennifer, was a hard day today, so your prayers must have upheld me !

Doing butterflies and KLT at night, seems to be okay so far. (well not counting today, was sick with yeah that monthly monster)

I am not sure if I am doing the butterflies correctly. Is the arm supposed to be behind the shoulder ? Not sure if I can see that on the clip ?

And is there a reason we have to stop, retuck deeper, and go on ? Just want to be sure I"m doing it right.

Is there any other moves that I could rotate or add as I get stronger ?
Anything that will strip off this weight faster than my patience ! ? LOL

Thanks again and hope this bumps this up again. Long, tiring day here today.

~Rita

[ayj67]

Rita,

I make chicken stock (with the bone is stock) on a regular basis. Not that I am on GAPS, but that is traditional how soup is made when I was growing up, and I had broth or stock almost everyday. Some days are the old fashioned that has been simmered for hours, sometimes it is great broth that vegetables were cooked in.

If you have one of those pot with strainers insert for spaghetti, you can just use that. You can just pull our the strainer insert.

Regarding butterfiles, the arms and hands are extended out almost 180 (no more than 190) degrees, finger tips pointing a the side wall, not trying to point at the corners of the back wall. Shoulder back is after the shoulder roll up and then down, your shoulder blades are little pushed in, then you extend your arms insertion to insertion, point at the side wall at while arms and hands are at (or slight above) shoulder level. Try to tighten your lower back and keep your shoulder back (shoulder blades pressed in) when you are doing butterflies.

The T-Tapp stance engaged the alignment with the most muscle activation from head to feet and speed up fat burning and neuro-kinetic flow, keep it correct at all time is important for your T-Tapp success. I practice standing T-Tapp stance for days before I even finish a set of HD. Don't skim, first thing first, that is the T-Tapp stance. Toes forward (outside of the feet parallel), hip width, following the More protocol, you KLT first before you tuck butt, then lift ribs and shoulder back, and then make sure your tuck is good and your knee cap is still pointing out.

Retuck, that is necessary, as in the beginning (or after 22 months) butt will become untuck when you are paying attention to all the other limbs' alignment and position. It is always good to check whether you butt becomes untuck or if your toe forward feet becomes duck feet and KLT knee become pointing inward instead of outward.

[just7]

Yep---what Ayj said! hee hee

My sister was stretching her hands/arms back toward the wall behind her and I had to stop her and tell her to stretch her hands/arms to the side walls. Straight to the sides. Stand with your hands down by your side. Now just lift your arms straight up. Stop when they are shoulder height. Flip your hands so that your palms are point to the ceiling. Stretch your fingers toward the side walls. Tighten arms and stretch like someone is standing at each side and stretching your arms to the side walls.

You have to bend and retuck because you unbend and become untucked during the movement. We stop thinking about it. I watch one of my dds doing TappCore. Every time Teresa says Bend it, Tuck it, Lift it, my dd bends really deep. But by the time she is tucking she is already starting to unbend and by the time she is "lifting" she is completely unbent and untucked!!! She has FINALLY asked me to "spot" her and help her stay in better form. (She is 15)

I know Ayj already said it all....but I couldn't help putting my own spin on things. I'm so sorry that you had such a bad day, Rita and am praying for you!

[mum4life]

Rita,

I make chicken stock (with the bone is stock) on a regular basis. Not that I am on GAPS, but that is traditional how soup is made when I was growing up, and I had broth or stock almost everyday. Some days are the old fashioned that has been simmered for hours, sometimes it is great broth that vegetables were cooked in.

If you have one of those pot with strainers insert for spaghetti, you can just use that. You can just pull our the strainer insert.

Regarding butterfiles, the arms and hands are extended out almost 180 (no more than 190) degrees, finger tips pointing a the side wall, not trying to point at the corners of the back wall. Shoulder back is after the shoulder roll up and then down, your shoulder blades are little pushed in, then you extend your arms insertion to insertion, point at the side wall at while arms and hands are at (or slight above) shoulder level. Try to tighten your lower back and keep your shoulder back (shoulder blades pressed in) when you are doing butterflies.

The T-Tapp stance engaged the alignment with the most muscle activation from head to feet and speed up fat burning and neuro-kinetic flow, keep it correct at all time is important for your T-Tapp success. I practice standing T-Tapp stance for days before I even finish a set of HD. Don't skim, first thing first, that is the T-Tapp stance. Toes forward (outside of the feet parallel), hip width, following the More protocol, you KLT first before you tuck butt, then lift ribs and shoulder back, and then make sure your tuck is good and your knee cap is still pointing out.

Retuck, that is necessary, as in the beginning (or after 22 months) butt will become untuck when you are paying attention to all the other limbs' alignment and position. It is always good to check whether you butt becomes untuck or if your toe forward feet becomes duck feet and KLT knee become pointing inward instead of outward.

Thanks ayj67,
That butterflies really takes some brain work. LOL took me a bit to get my back tightened while doing them. I hope I"m doing them right.
It was an off week here so didn't accomplish much. I've been practicing alot of just KLT stance and it's amazing how natural it feels to 'sit' in that position.

I did make some beef bone broth. Wow, what alot of fat! Oh my. I keep telling myself, 'it's good fats, it's good fats'.
But I made it up for 12 hours and put in the fridge. Only briefly tasted it, so think I got more of the fat than the rest.
Is there a time limit on how long it will last in the fridge once its cooked ?
And it should be strained, so all the bones and meat pieces take out ?
And then ? Stir quick and add MORE fat before drinking?
I just made it without salt or anything this time to make sure I did it right. I'm going to have to make friends with the butcher if I'm going to keep making this.
So my question is, everyone says its so good. I'm not 'particularly' attracted to this. (sensitive stomach to anything different)
So any hints on making this work ? Besides salt, perhaps straining out everything so it's clear ? Any other tips ?

Thanks everyone here.
~Rita