Oh crap! Not again! Adrenal Fatigue Help!

[wavybrains]

In the fall, I also completed 1 month of t-tapp, that time doing the instructional for BWO+ every other day. Then suddenly I was battling massive problems with chest pain, stomach issues, fatigue, joint pain, and anxiety. I fell off the t-tapp wagon and had a whole host of medical tests, all of which were normal--blood work, endoscope, EKG, multiple ultrasounds etc. I've had most of the symptoms for adrenal fatigue off & on for about 10 years now.

By March, when I started t-tapping again this time (this time with MORE), I was feeling pretty good. I'd been taking higher Vit D and natural progestrone both of which seemed to help along with eliminating some inflammatory foods like most dairy, artificial sweeteners and acid/citrus foods. The Man made/god made food plan has made me feel terrific. BUT yesterday, I started having the horrible chest pain again, and realized that I've been having to up my coffee the last week or two and fatigue has been creeping up on me.

I've done a few searches on here for adrenal fatigue, but what I really want to know is how to best use T-tapp to cure it and what else to do so that I can slowly build up to more exercise. I know Blessed Mama has said that she used T-tapp Chair exclusively for a while. But how long? Just until this recent flare-up has passed?

Are there other supplements that really help? I've found long lists of different things and I just don't have the budget to try lots of things right now. I currently do my prescription anti-depressant + Fish Oil (high quality from Cost Co x2 a day) + Vit D (10,000 mg three times a week for severe Vit D deficiency--prescription from naturopath) + Cal/Mag supplement. I use the Mirena IUD for birth control, but I've had most of these symptoms long before Mirena--they seem to wax and wane with stress etc. It seems that EVERY darn time I try to lose weight and start exercising my body protests loudly. And that makes me so sad. I *know* that t-tapp can work for me. I love how it makes me feel in general. More even than inch loss, I love how proactive I feel doing the workout and how much more in control of body I feel.

Any ideas? Support? Similar experiences?
Thanks in advance!
Beth

[ayj67]

Beth,

You have to do a trial and error on your schedule. In theory, doing More (yes the 20 mins) once every 3 days is enough for adrenal fatigue people. If you are in a crash, I think you can just do More Chair as workout (still once every 3 days). If that bores you, you can do More Step Away after PBS. Don't do more than 10 mins a day on exercise day. When you start feeling good, you can start with More Chair daily. If Daily More Chair or More Step Away is fine, you don't need extra nap, then you can start up on More once every 3 days. Learn to listen to your body's over exercise signs.

Yes, now, your brain is going to scream how can I lose my body fat with 40 mins of workout every week. It can and will happen, just go read the attention and focus, or intention, or no wasted move thread Trisch started yesterday.

You need to pay super special focus on correct alignment on every single move you do, and really do it as all the muscles activations in good form. Stand the T-Tapp stance well. Vertical alignment: shoulder, hip and ankles in one straight line, (90 degrees to the floor). Horizontal alignment, shoulder and hip level on flat back, when you do chest press with your arms on Piles, the shoulder and elbow are level, never let the elbow drop. No going up and down in Piles, and always keep your butt tuck and ribs up, no matter what you do, including sitting in front of the computer or at dinner table.

Ribs up, always ribs up, do not put weight and added pressure on the adrenal glad literally, by pushing ribs cage on the spleen, and kidney area (same area with adrenal gland).

When you workout in correct alignment, it is good for your health, adrenal and lypmphatic. When you workout in bad alignment, you got inflammation, that is even more damaging to the adrenal (to get rid of inflammation) than not working out.

You can take the time that you don't do the workout by setting that up for next workout, check your alignment with mirror and video on the non-workout day. Make notes on non-workout days.

Workout day, only workout when you are feeling good and not run down. If at any move, you feel your energy draining, that is it, drink some more water and do the HD and be done with it. Do not practice "pushing" the envelope with your body, as your adrenal won't like it.

If you need a nap that you don't normally need, then you over exercise. If you are tired, getting more stimulants in your system in not a good way, go take a nap or two. Let your adrenal heal by resting enough.

Eat balance meal, with good fat, good protein and minimal carb (carb from fruit and vegetables and layoff on grains).

Listen to Trisch as usual.

[abbyandcat]

Also -- you may not be absorbing your supplements. Fish oils can be difficult to break down without a digestive enzyme taken with them. Check out The T-Tapp Vitamin D Experience from MyMedLab too -- it's on the forum home page and in the newsletter -- micellized vitamin D is WAAAAAAY more effective! and you'll have the labs to prove it!

[BlessedMama]

HUGS Bethany!

It is SO hard when we feel so good and then get a setback.

I would back off for now--yes, I did MORE Chair 2-3 times a week, but it really only lasted about 2 weeks, maybe three. And I totally crashed to the point of needing 3 naps a day to barely function (if I didn't have older dds, things would have been a mess!)

I'm going to put this in caps, not to yell at you, but because it is vitally important:

FOR ADRENAL RECOVERY YOU MUST MUST MUST EAT ENOUGH GOOD FATS!

I can't stress that enough! There are many things you can do to help recovery along, and there are so many supplements, it can be a daunting task when you're already taxed mentally to figure out what to do! I use my faith a lot here and prayed for wisdom! I picked a few herbs/supplements I felt were what I should do, and started there.

The three biggest things I have noticed improvement on were:

Kelp and spirulina. I mix half and half and put in size 00 capsules and take 2-4 daily
The D-ribose and MSM with EfferC combination ayj shared from Beauty Bootcamp (I take mine in the morning instead of evening)
Bone based broth (I really like chicken ) with a big dollop of grass-fed butter (or at least get rBgh free),celtic sea salt to taste and a pinch of ginger

When I have my cup of broth like a cup of tea in the morning, and again at suppertime, with the above "additions" (butter or coconut oil, celtic sea salt and ginger), it's amazing how much better I feel!

Be patient with yourself--do what you can without overtaxing yourself, and don't feel like MORE Chair is going backwards! You are still activating and you are still pumping lymph--and you can still sweat!

HUGS to you!

[abbyandcat]

Hey Trisch -- thanks for the confirmation -- I've been getting messages about bone broth -- we are sadly lacking in our modern-age diet...and now you confirm it. I found one source for a powder -- if you want it, I'll hunt it up. I couldn't imagine how I was going to stomach it -- but the mini-recipe you have sounds like I could mask the smell and taste well enough to get it down. Don't tell Klondike!!!

[Vanetta]

Mixing the kelp with the spirulina definitely makes "choking it down" a whole lot easier. I strongly *dislike* spirulina. I just put the kelp and spirulina powder in my Magic Bullet, then put 1 TBSP in a little water and got it down much easier than spirulina by itself. Thanks Trisch.

[wavybrains]

I just wanted to come back and thanks so much for all the advice. I actually ended up going into my naturopath because things kept getting worse--and what do you know? I had a really bad case of bronchitis, a sinus infection, and chest wall inflammation. So this week, I have mainly been focused on healing. Lots of broth--I made bone broth for the first time Trish! Lots of 100% fresh juice and antibotics for the infection after the natural stuff didn't knock it out. The naturopath said that T-tapp is probably making my body detox which is causing some of my other problems to magnify. I can't do spirulina b/c it's a wheat, but I might try kelp.

I haven't done MORE chair this week as even that seems to aggravate my chest pain. I have struggled with this in the past as I seem really prone to chest wall inflammation when my liver/stomach gets out of wack. He said maybe I am over-tightening my muscles during the exercises too? Is that possible? I'm a rather large busted lady, so it's hard for me to feel what is shoulders back and what is over-arching. If this keeps up, I'll go back to the doctor, but I'm really hoping that most of it is the bronchitis. I am hoping to do MORE chair for the first time tomorrow. The trick will be figuring out how to activate without inflamming myself prior. I LIKE the fact that I'm detoxing, but man, it is really hard right now. I'm trying to not worry about the challenge, but it makes me sad that my body just doesn't cooperate.

[ayj67]

Bethany, what did your naturopath doctor give you for inflammation? Have your try apple cider vinegar and cayenne, mix in water (you can add honey with water, or you can add in apple juice. I just had cold and bronchitis 2 weeks ago, the constant drinking of AVC and cayenne, made it very symptom less.

About chest pain, I don't think T-Tapp or More Chair can aggravate, but if you are seriously inflammed then you will just hurt even your breathe deep. Do Step Away in More everyday, it will help to get rid of some inflammation and help your speed up the healing.

Regarding shoulder back, shoulder back is not achieved by leaning back or arching your spine back. It is like shoulder roll on the bottom, that is shoulder back (shoulder blade back and down). Try to do shoulder roll with just the shoulder (keep the arms straight and pinkies touching the seam of your shirt, then roll it up then down, that down is how your shoulder back is supposed to be.

As in flat back, we are doing flat back shoulder back before we pump our arms, before we pull the weed. Shoulder back is in standing arm pump, and in scoop out during PBS (after curl up).

There is no need to wait till tomorrow to do More Step Away, do it now, it is only 9 mins, your chest will feel better. If you have any enlarged lymph nodes, they will be smaller after the stepping.

[wavybrains]

He had me doing a mainly liquid diet for a few days of 100% juice, broth, garlic, ginger. I took EHB which is a blend of herbal antibotic remedies. When that didn't work, I started antibotics. I already do some ACV, but I'll try to do more tomorrow.

Yes, totally at the hurts-to-take-deep breaths stage. All my other inflammation trigger points are acting up too. I think my form gets better each time I t-tapp, but I think the learning curve may have caused me to really over-inflame things. Or maybe this is just part of the healing process for me.

Step Away was a good recommendation.

[ayj67]

1 tablespoon of ACV with 1 teaspoon of cayenne, honey or not, your choice, in 8 oz of warm water. Drink it often and frequent. If you have things stuck and need to be coughed up, this will make thing easier to get out, and you won't be coughing as hard to try to dislodge the mucus.

If ACV is too nasty, add some apple juice.

Over 2 days, I probably drank 12 oz of ACV with cayenne. I eased up to just 1 or 2 drinks per day when I did not want to hack my lung out in the morning. With this ACV Cayenne drink, I only cough in the morning, I have not problem sleeping.