Sacroiliac joint pain?

[crispygolden]

Hi everyone,
I'm a new T Tapper as of 8/31/09. I'm 2 days into a bootcamp with the Total Workout plus Organs in Place, Awesome Legs, Diva Derriere. I'm noticing a recurrence of sacroiliac joint pain on my left side, at a low pain level. Does anyone have any suggestions or experience to share?
Because of my past experiences with this issue, I'm a little afraid in positions like Oil Well, the stretch before Airplanes and Airplanes, torso at less than 90 degrees to legs. I have found that when I tighten my butt like Teresa says, it seems to strengthen the area to support itself more in alignment - but something is going a little out, enough to notice pain or discomfort throughout the day.
I welcome any form suggestions or comments -
Thanks

[Lori French]

Oil Wells is actually a recommended move for this type of pain.......... DD also, surprising, relieves this for me, too, as long as I'm *really* focused on pushing that hip forward, being up *on edge* and lifting from the hip joint, not the ankle.

[gentleshepherd]

Hi there, I have suffered from SI joint pain for over ten years, sometimes horribly so. I have averaged 1 chiro. appt. a week over that time period---$55 a visit! I started T.-Tapp like gang busters and my si got worse. I finally listened to the wisdom on the boards and just did MORE for about a month! Wow, what a difference! It obviously strengthened muscles and joints and now I can do any workout without pain. My SI has been fine, I mean, years and years of pain, GONE!

I think even BWO was too much for my body, even though I was relatively fit. My advice would be to do MORE for awhile to get stronger. Hope that helps

[Toosers]

I've had SI pain for years also. I have seen chiros and physical therapists for relief but found that T-Tapp is the only thing that can consistently control my discomfort/pain in that area. The tip I have found most important is to keep the ribs up and tummy TIGHT with the butt tuck from the LOWER LUMBAR. This really keeps the core doing all of the work and that is what keeps me in alignment. If I slack off tightening the core muscles my SI joint will slip out and that is what causes all of the pain. PBS is also a godsend to me!

[Casey]

On Oil Wells and Airplanes, make sure you keep those knees pushing out the whole time. It makes a difference!

If you're really sore you may want to apply magnesium oil and/or take a salt/mag bath to help relieve the pain.

[crispygolden]

Wow, everyone, I really appreciate your replies.

I was noticing that on the lunges I was lunging so deep I could not tighten or tuck - like I had no control over the butt/pelvis. So I will back off on that and only do what I can with the butt tucked as has been suggested. At this point I can't plie or lunge with a full butt tuck and full KLT - seems like the butt tuck is most important to protect the SI and the KLT will have to come in time.

(Meanwhile, I have to say I'm having AMAZING upper body results for my neck & shoulders and what an improvement in my hands and wrists!)

Gentleshepherd, when you say MORE, do you mean the TTapp workout called MORE? (forgive me, I'm really new here). Is BWO the Basic workout?

Toosers, what is PBS?

Thanks too Lori and Casey for the form tips and suggestions.

[Lori French]

Primary Back Stretch, the first move, contains the hands clasping behind the back, the whole thing is PBS. On plies and lunges check your feet width. Sometimes moving them in a tad can help you get a better tuck and KLT.

More is a full workout, another DVD and yes, BWO is instructional 1, aka, Basic Workout Plus, Hoedowns added, making it the plus.

Do what you can, kick out and/or pause when you need to, the rest will come as your body heals, just as you've found upper body improvements, more will follow!!! Don't stop now!

[crispygolden]

Today while doing the Total Workout I remembered about my hamstrings, how my PT told me not to stretch beyond 90 degrees torso to leg - which I mentioned in my first post. I found some other threads like My PT thinks part of Ttapp isn't good for me and Tell me about MORE - the original poster's issues sound a lot like mine. My PT called it pelvic instability. I'm going to try modifying the hamstring stretching, like the stretching after Puppet Pulls (this is what I thought was called Airplanes, but I think I was wrong, I think Airplanes are an Arm exercise) and then the Runner's Stretch after thread the needle. Maybe not completely omit, but to hold the transverse ab and butt and KLT as best I can without moving into flat back or more. Yes, the Box and the PBS and the forward head rocking are worrisome, and so is Half Frog even, seems to torque my back out with the legs in that turnout. Keeping my fingers crossed on this, I don't want to overdo into an injury. I do know that the Callanetics hip/butt exercise really helps, and so does hamstring muscle strengthening, but I want to stick as best I can to the Bootcamp to see how TTapp really works for me....

I'm 5'7" and shocked to see that at the side of my waist there's less than 1 1/2" between my rib and hip - never thought of myself as a short torso before! I do know that I have an extra rib, sometime years ago on an Xray I found out about it.