The Schwarzbein Principle Journey

[BlessedMama]

I thought I'd start a thread and share tidbits from her books, and if any of you are following Schwarzbein and want to share your experiences, please do!

I had found her books 3 1/2 years ago (probably due to the forums here, LOL!)

In the spring of 2008, I tried to do her program. I wasn't 100% perfect, but I was headed that way. At that time I noticed some things improving--the mental fog was better and although I didn't lose much inch-wise, I lost another size and got off a plateau I had been on for awhile.

Unfortunately, I got busy helping my mom get her house ready to sell and move her, and SP (for Schwarzbein Principle) fell by the wayside.

Over the next 2 years I had more stress hit my life (miscarriage, sick kids, losing grandparents and Mom within 8 months of each other). Now I'm ready to try to do it again, but I fully expect my transition will have some bumps this time. I'm not 100% sure where I fit, but adrenals burned out or close is probably me! :(

The Schwarzbein Principle II: The Transition is probably the most comprehensive of the books:

http://www.amazon.com/Schwarzbein-Principle-Transition-Regeneration-Accelerated/dp/1558749640/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1294063424&sr=8-1

(The sample at Amazon gives you just a taste of the first chapter and only gives you the very first paragraph of her own story! Her story and that of others are interwoven throughout the book.)

The first book (The Schwarzbein Principle) is very informative and also tells her story of how she "discovered" all this.

The Transition gives you a lot of why with a lot of how!

The Program (the third book) outlines a typical program for several weeks. All three books give you menu plans and ideas. I would highly recommend you start with one of the first two books before just getting The Program.

Reading "Metabolic Aging" at the bottom of p. 4 and top of p. 5 is very helpful! (That is on Amazon)

Dr. S was a skinny girl who still had a damaged metabolism. Your size is not necessarily your indicator!

We started discussing SP on this thread:

http://forum.t-tapp.com/showthread.php?69913-A-Plateau-Is-*Not*-Always-a-Bad-Thing!/page3

That page is where we started talking about it and there are some quotes on there.

I'll be posting some quotes from The Transition and maybe her other books, too.

I guess this will be a "journey" of sorts, where I'm going to be accountable to how I'm doing. I've wanted to do this, but have been dragging my feet at figuring out what to eat!

I won't be perfect--I know that. I wasn't before, but still could tell it was helping. But I really believe, just like T-Tapp, that if I stay consistent, I will see results eventually! Dr. S. says it can take up to two years to heal your metabolism, depending how bad off you are to start! Her own journey took several years, but she was kind of figuring out some things as she went, and didn't fully understand it all until she was on "the other side".

On pp. 12-13 she has a wonderful short section called Understanding Your Metabolism. I don't want to quote the whole thing, but here are a few paragraphs to "chew on"!


"This combination of using up and rebuilding biochemicals is called regeneration. Think of it this way--every time you breathe, think, go for a walk, read a book, eat a meal, watch a movie or do any other activity during your day, you are using up biochemicals. Your body must then rebuild the same biochemicals so that you can engage in all your life activities again. What you use up you must replenish, and you get the materials you need to rebuild your biochemicals from the food you eat.

"The sum of these regeneration reactions, all the using-up reactions plus all the building-up reactions that are occurring, is what you know as your metabolism. You have an efficient metabolism if all of these chemical reactions are occurring on a continuous basis and you rebuild just as many biochemicals as you use up.

"Every system and funciton in the body is connected, so when these chemical reactions occur efficiently your metabolism runs efficiently, helping you reach your preset genetic age. When regeneration is not efficient (use is greater than rebuilding, or rebuilding occurs more than using up), premature disease and death occur because of accelerated metabolic aging."

(The Transition, pp. 12-13)


I confess right now that I am not off to a good start today! Homemade cocoa wheats are just NOT on the SP protocol! :o

But I'm going to sit down over the next few days and figure out a workable menu for me, as we go shopping this Thursday. Dh is interested in doing this too--now he is a beanpole, an active construction guy, BUT, he is noticing some "signs of aging" that might be reversed through this. We discussed last night how his serious accident 6 years ago likely did a major hit on his adrenals.

It sure helps when those in the household are willing to help!

If any of you have quotes you particularly found helpful, please feel free to share! I feel Dr. S is to the diet/eating what Teresa is to exercise/movement! Dr. S. is about BALANCE, not deprivation, and her mantra, which I LOVE is:

"You have to eat well to feel well, and you don't lose weight to get healthy--you get healthy to lose weight!"

Your "assignment": Write that out and paste it to your mirror...your computer...above the kitchen sink...until you have it memorized forwards and backwards! :D

[Callicrowe]

Trisch,
I got all three books from the library, then ordered the third one from Amazon. Sounds like maybe I need to order the second one as well, although I haven't read the third one yet. I did read most of the first.

I will be following this with interest, but am not sure at this point what I will do with it. My diet is pretty close already, so I want to see how I might tweak it to make it better.

You can do this! Step by step...

[OzFriend]

Trisch,

This sounds very helpful. I know you've mentioned this before in other threads and I keep telling myself I need to check it out but I've never gotten around to do it. Now you've just given me push I needed.

I started T-Tapp not just because I want to lose weight but also because I know I need to look after myself better. I live under a lot of stress that is not going to go away. At first I thought it was selfish to take time I don't have to do good things for me but then I realized I can't look after my family if I don't look after myself. T-Tapp has really helped, I now feel stronger, less tired and my back has been rehabed in a major way. But that is just the beginning and it sounds like the Schwarzbein Principle might be what I need to continue my journey. From reading around the forums I think my adrenals might be compromised (no surprise really) and I really want a diet and lifestyle change that is going to support all of me, not just help me lose weight.

So off to buy the books and I'll keep you posted when I receive them.

[just7]

As you know---I'm on this journey with you, Sister!! (Need to get out the cookbook and make some plans!)

I'm reading the 1st book and the Program book in tandem together right now. I need to make a list of what we would eat in each category---Fats, Proteins, etc. Then I need to put a list beside those of what 2 of my children need to avoid. THEN---we need to come up with menus for every meal!!!!

A definite work in progress. I'll post quotes as I read that really speak to me!

[MiPaloma]

I thought I'd start a thread and share tidbits from her books, and if any of you are following Schwarzbein and want to share your experiences, please do!



Well, Trisch, I can say that each time I've visited her site to read this tidbit or the other, I've been impressed with the logic of her voice.

I think, though, that I haven't wrapped my brain around the nuts and bolts of what she's saying, foundationally, to be able to grasp the whole concept.

Perhaps reading the books would do that for me, eh?

[just7]

Could be, Angi. I know that I have a hard time reading online after a while. Plus---I like to write things down, write in the margins, underline. A df let me borrow one of her books and she had earmarked some pages (quite a few) and wrote a key word on the flap to help her find things easily. I thought it was a great idea!

[BlessedMama]

Angie, I agree with Jennifer! Teresa always says Tappers like to be "in the know" and she loves to educate us! So, of course that transfers over to other areas of health, too. That's why I love the way Dr. S. explains what's going on, why you're feeling what you're feeling (especially during the transition phase). One of the reasons she wrote the second book is people read the first book and got the idea that insulin was bad and went too far that way trying to get their insulin down. So she felt a more comprehensive book explaining more of the mechanics of it all--nuts and bolts, as you said!

It flies in the face of many diets out there, even seemingly "good" ones. Like many of you, I don't want to just lose weight or get smaller--I want to be healthy now AND in 30 years! And 40! If I can live to be 120, I want it to be the most healthy 120 I can be! :D

Any of you reading the books, feel free to add quotes that really helped you.

Peggy, I know you've been addressing your eating, and I know I may not be able to be 100% consistent with this, but whatever changes I make have to be good! And if you have read the other books to understand what's going on, you'll be okay with the third one. Although I refer to the first and second one a lot when I'm looking things up! That gets comical--"WHERE did I read that? Was it in The Program? The Transition? I'm sure it was in this one....nope! The FIRST one!" LOLOL!

[Anna Louise]

I'm going to watch this thread! Thanks Trish!

[Callicrowe]

Well, after my first "allergy elimination" session today I am more motivated to pursue this. From discussions we've had here, plus research I've done, I was pretty sure my adrenals were compromised to some degree. When Sandi muscle-tested me for all the different organs and systems (kidneys, lungs, etc), the only one that I was weak on was the adrenals. She mentioned some things that I might experience with that (fatigue, moodiness, irritability, etc) and I was nodding my head the whole time. I think I've already recovered to a great degree, as the symptoms are all mild, but now I have another confirmation that this is a real issue for me.

In this first session she tested for some common food allergies and I tested sensitive to several, including dairy, sugar, corn and some other grain (maybe wheat... not sure), soy, artificial "stuff", not sure what else. So I got my first "elimination" session for those things. It's a very interesting process. She said that people who have hives as a symptom, though, are difficult because it's usually an auto-immune problem that triggers the outbreaks. But, they have about 85% success with either totally eliminating symptoms or reducing them considerably. I'll be doing this every Monday for the next several weeks, possibly up to 15 sessions. I'm hopeful.

Oh, and my Vitamin D test came back at 99! I've been taking 10,000 IU for the past three weeks, so she said to cut back to 5,000. She doesn't want it to get any higher. (I've been taking 5,000 a day for several months. My last test was 46).

I know, some of this isn't directly relevant to Schwarzbein but in a way it's all connected, isn't it? We are complex beings! So, I'm going to order the second book tonight. I should probably just go ahead and get them all! They're pretty reasonable on Amazon.

[BlessedMama]

Good going on your vitamin D!!!! And yes, it's ALL interrelated!

I got out my copy of The Program, and she does explain some in there what all is going on. But if someone really wants to understand the why behind the how, The Transition is the best one!


Glad you're finding out about the food allergies--which, are also directly related to the adrenals!

[ayj67]

Trsich, remember my other cut and paste paragraph from Dr. Cass Ingram's book about adrenal gland and royal jelly? The first thing he said was allergies caused the adrenal fatique? I will go revive that post for you, Peggy.

[Grayce]

Well, Trisch, I can say that each time I've visited her site to read this tidbit or the other, I've been impressed with the logic of her voice.

I think, though, that I haven't wrapped my brain around the nuts and bolts of what she's saying, foundationally, to be able to grasp the whole concept.

Perhaps reading the books would do that for me, eh?I think that is my frustration with her books - I am CERTAIN her principles make sense, but, I cannot wrap my brain around it all - I enjoy the science of it all, IF I was reading it for entertainment - but, to read it and make SENSE of it, and implement it all is where I get bogged down.

[BlessedMama]

Angi and Laura, I hear you! I've had her books, like I said, for 3+ years!

But I'm slowly getting it. The biggest thing is to make sure you're eating enough, in balance, and not overdoing exercise. Of course she addresses stress and sleep and addictions and hormones, too. But my focus for right now, is the food and not overdoing even T-Tapp.

That's why I plan to share my journey. I know it won't be perfect! But hopefully, as I share my eating plans, maybe that will help us ALL wrap our brains around it!

For my weight, which is close to 150, I need 10-12 oz. protein a day divided over 3 meals and 2 snacks. That's roughly 2 oz. each one. My first goal is to make sure I'm getting that. I also want to make sure my carbohydrates are good ones, not cookies or candy or any of the other not-so-great choices I've been stuffing in my mouth this past month!

I'd type more, but my dd is hogging the other computer and I just can't type long on the laptop!!!

Aurora, yes, do post that link here! I read through it and haven't gotten any yet, but plan to!

[Titus2Mommy]

So, which book of the three books should you start with? I actually had several signs of adrenal fatigue before starting t-tapp, but they are so much better now. I don't know if I could still have adrenal fatigue even though the symptoms are gone or not? I suppose it wouldn't hurt to try it anyway. I suppose I could get an appointment at the doctor and see if they would test me for it. I have had several health food kicks only to fail with them all, so I am a little afraid of failure (and putting my family through something again). Just rambling here, sorry. I will keep my eye on this post.

Blessings,
Angie

[ayj67]

Here is the excerpt from Dr. Cass Ingram's How to Eat Right and Live Longer (p.160 & 161), he has a strong tie with Northern American Herbs and Spice (if he does not own it, Royal Power is one of the product):


The Role of the Adrenal Glands

People who have numerous allergies (to me, numerous means 30 or more of a possible 205) have weakened adrenal glands. The adrenal glands are the most important organ for fighting allergies. They produce hormone, such as cortisone and DHEA, which help prevent allergic reactions and/or decrease their intensity. The adrenals can be strengthened with the appropriate types of nutrients. Stress reduction and removal of the offending foods are also important. Eating excessive quantities of sugar and starch weakens the adrenal glands. This is why the reduced carbohydrate diet described in this book is so beneficial.

Proper function of the adrenal glands is dependent upon excellent nutrition. The glands are dependent upon a regular supply of certain nutrients, and the most important of these are as follows:


- vitamin A (helps in the synthesis of adrenal cells)

- vitamin C (prevents the breakdown of adrenal hormones and aids in hormone synthesis)

- pantothenic acid (invaluable in preventing damage to the adrenal glands; it is required for the synthesis of adrenal hormones)

- vitamin B6

- thiamine

- sodium (needed to help the adrenals maintain fluid and electrolyte balance)

- magnesium

- manganese

- potassium

- selenium (prevents the adrenals from being damaged or infected)

- vitamin E

- bioflavonoids (help prevent the adrenal cells from





Many allergic patients actually have a deficiency in sodium. Often, such individuals crave salt. The reason is that the weakened adrenal glands can no longer produce enough of the hormone which causes the kidneys to retain salt. This hormone is known as aldosterone. Thus,without sufficient aldosterone, salt is readily lost into the urine. In such patients food should be cooked with salt and a heavy hand should be used with the salt shaker. In addition, salty snacks are advisable.




Royal jelly is perhaps the greatest nutritional means to strengthen weakened adrenal glands. This is because it is naturally rich in steroids and contains the most complete balance of natural steroids of any substance. Interestingly, royal jelly contains some 50 different natural steroids, the same quantity found in the normal adrenal gland. Royal Jelly is more potent if combined with pantothenic acid. This is because pantothenic acid is a critical nutrient for the normal functioning of the adrenal glands. This vitamin is absolutely required for the glands' production of natural cortisone, aldosterone, DHEA, and other steroids.


It is important to realize that not all royal jelly is the same. The majority of products available are relatively low in active ingredients, which is measured by a steroid known as 10-hydroxydecanoic acid. Royal Power is a high potency royal jelly, containing a 10-hydroxydecanoic acid content of nearly 6.5%. Commercially available products are usually lower than 3.5%. Furthermore, Royal Power is fortified with pantothenics acid which greatly boosts its energizing powers. If you suffer from adrenal weakness, take Royal Power, two or three capsules twice daily.

[ayj67]

http://forum.t-tapp.com/showthread.php?70381-Adrenal-Glands-and-Royal-Jelly

the links has the royal jelly dosage information.

[BlessedMama]

Aurora, thanks for pasting that here!

Angie, I totally understand what you are saying. However, her eating plan is actually very doable. The big catch is many of us aren't eating enough of the right foods. She even said in one of the books you may have to "gag it down" if you're used to cutting calories or not eating balanced meals. Not as an excuse to overeat, mind you!

Really, you could start with any of the books. I was reading in the Program last night, and she does give some "whys" in there--the second book, The Schwarzbein Principle II: The Transition, is by far the most in depth treatment of the "whys". In all three she gives sample menus for different carbohydrate levels (she explains all that in the book), gluten free in at least two of the books, vegetarian (although she allows eggs and cheese so I guess that's lacto-ovo vegetarian) and even lower fat (for healing phase for certain people, not everyone). She does NOT advocate low fat diets, per se, but some people may need to go that way for a bit until their metabolisms heal.

I started with the first book, The Schwarzbein Principle. It was very good, but if I were just starting now, I honestly would get The Transition. It is thicker! So if you want a quicker read and overview, The Program will be good. But the The Transition goes into much more detail about the four possibilities of Insulin Sensitive/Healthy Adrenals, Insulin Resistant/Healthy Adrenals, Insulin Sensitive/Burned Out Adrenals and Insulin Resistant/Burned Out Adrenals. Then she outlines a plan for each of those.

But if you get her idea of balanced meals with enough good protein, good carbs, good fats and non-starchy veggies, you can do it without buying all three books.

Her story of how she stumbled onto this with her Type II diabetes patients at the beginning of her practice is in the first book, and really amazing. She tells a bit of her story there, but her story is detailed more in the second book. She was skinny, could eat what she wanted, but was very unhealthy. She had so many lung infections and issues with her intestines that one dr. thought she was headed for Crohns disease! She kind of figured out as she went along what helped and what didn't, and that made her want to be a dr., then an endocrinologist. She wanted, though, to be the kind of dr. that really helped patients get well, not just prescribe drugs for symptoms. (Doesn't that make you love her?!)

She told in her first book how she was disappointed to be assigned to Type II diabetics at first, because even as late as the early 90s, it was basically a slow death sentence. Most Type IIs didn't get better overall. She found something that clicked, her patients got better, spread the word, and here she is!

Both the first and second books have "case studies" where you can read how different people with different levels of issues came to her and then healed themselves by following her program--including some of their frustrations (not feeling better, gaining weight, panicking and wanting to go back to the former ways, etc.).

Her explanations of what goes on during your healing phase really helps when you think, "I felt better eating junk and overexercising!" The point is, you were using up your biochemicals, and using up feels better than rebuilding, unfortunately! But at some point, you will crash because you can't keep tearing down forever.

I hope that helps!(goodness! It's a mini-book in itself!!!! :laughing: )

[just7]

Sounds great, Trisch!!! You've written a good part of what I've read in the last 2 days! (From The Program book) It was amazing to me to have that explained...about feeling better when you were actually doing something to "tear down" the body and feeling worse when you start rebuilding!

[BlessedMama]

Yeah, the scarey thing for me?! This stuff is starting to make sense!!!!! LOL!

[Grayce]

Yeah, the scarey thing for me?! This stuff is starting to make sense!!!!! LOL!Well, for me I'm glad it is starting to make sense TO YOU - I'll get the Transition, make it make sense to me, figure out where Ted is, and feed him.

[BlessedMama]

Laura, I joke because I was a foreign language major in college!!!! I am definitely a right-brained, creative type, musician, artsy craftsy, love language arts gal!

Science? The body? Biochemicals? I woulda run screaming from the room 30 years ago!!! :laughing:


I started my ISSA studying, too--man, even THAT stuff is starting to make sense to me! :help: :D

[Titus2Mommy]

Thanks for all the information! Is gluten free and vegatarian part of it or are they choices?

Blessings,
Angie

[Callicrowe]

Science? The body? Biochemicals? I woulda run screaming from the room 30 years ago!!!

And I would've been right behind you! :laughing:

[BlessedMama]

LOL Peggy!

Angie, they are choices, although in The Program she does advise that gluten free for 3 months may be a good idea if you have intestinal issues.

[Grayce]

Laura, I joke because I was a foreign language major in college!!!! I am definitely a right-brained, creative type, musician, artsy craftsy, love language arts gal!

Science? The body? Biochemicals? I woulda run screaming from the room 30 years ago!!! :laughing:


I started my ISSA studying, too--man, even THAT stuff is starting to make sense to me! :help: :DThen I am truly an odd duck. There is a huge side of me that is crafty, I love to sew, work in my soap lab (I guess that is the perfect mix of science and art), scrapbook and all that - so, like I said - odd duck. :-)

[Titus2Mommy]

I am glad to hear there are choices within the program. I am starting my search for a book.

Thanks,
Angie

[Grayce]

I am glad to hear there are choices within the program. I am starting my search for a book.

Thanks,
Angie
Thankfully our library has them.

[awakening33]

I have ordered this book and it should arrive this weekend. I believe I have adrenal fatigue because I have 8 of the symptoms below. Are there any supplements you all would recommend in the meantime?


Symptoms of adrenal fatigue:

Morning fatigue -- You don't really seem to "wake up" until 10 a.m., even if you've been awake since 7 a.m.
Afternoon "low" (feelings of sleepiness or clouded thinking) from 2 to 4 p.m.
Burst of energy at 6 p.m. -- You finally feel better from your afternoon lull.
Sleepiness at 9 to 10 p.m. -- However, you resist going to sleep.
"Second wind" at 11 p.m. that lasts until about 1 a.m., when you finally go to sleep.
Cravings for foods high in salt and fat
Increased PMS or menopausal symptoms
Mild depression
Lack of energy
Decreased ability to handle stress
Muscular weakness
Increased allergies
Lightheadedness when getting up from a sitting or laying down position
Decreased sex drive
Frequent sighing
Inability to handle foods high in potassium or carbohydrates unless they're combined with fats and protein


Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/019339.html#ixzz1A7Jpazei

[gillmings]

I honestly feel that she updated so much in The Transition that the first book is mostly obsolete. Unless you just really want to read every single word she's written, you can easily skip that one. IMHO, The Program is for people who are totally not interested in the nuts and bolts and just want to be told what to do. You have everything you need to implement the program in The Transition. I was glad I got them all from the library, so I could see that I only really needed to buy The Transition as reference.

I'm one of those people who needs to understand the whys and wherefores in order to stick with something and really do it. But I know people who are not like that and get bogged down with it and then give up. If you fall into that category, The Program is for you!

She has cookbooks, too, if you want more help with what to actually eat and how to put it all together that way. There is a vegetarian one, too, if that is helpful for you. I got them from the library and decided I didn't really need to own those, either. I got a few nice ideas, though. But then I mostly just needed to tweak what I was doing, not totally turn everything upside down. If eating whole CLEAN foods with plenty of dense protein, healthy fats, and veggies is not familiar to you, ya may want to check out the cookbooks. I'm pretty sure we have shared ideas on meals in the past here on the forums, too.

[BlessedMama]

Aurora posted a link and the info on page 2 of this thread for Royal Jelly. I personally haven't started using that yet.

I am on Metagenics Adrenogen. I take 2 at breakfast and 2 at lunch (when I can remember!!!). I also take vitamin C (500 mg Ester C with each meal), a good B-Complex as well as Eleuthro with the Adrenogen at breakfast and lunch. That is what my compounding pharmacist recommended to me along with a good multi-vitamin. I have a hard time getting all my vitamins in, but I make sure I get the Adrenogen, C, B-Complex and Eleuthro in (most of the time!)

Schwarzbein also recommends some supplements, but to start with I would definitely get on a good multi, vitamin C and B-Complex. I use From Fatigued to Fantastic's Daily Energy B-Complex:

http://www.thecatalog.com/03242.html

Right now Becky (my pharmacist) wants me to take 2 at both breakfast and lunch. I don't know why my brain forgets at lunch, but so it is. I'm working on that, obviously!

HTH!

[Grayce]

Moyne I found the Program to really bog me down - I hope I don't feel that way with Transition - that is the one I did get from the Library.

[BlessedMama]

Laura, if you are getting the Transition to look at, you could skip to the parts about each possible situation--there is a chapter for each: Insulin Sensitive/Healthy Adrenals, Insulin Resistant/Healthy Adrenals, Insulin Sensitive/Burned out Adrenals, Insulin Resistant/Burned out Adrenals. That would give you a good overview and you could always go back and read the nuts and bolts.

You could always go back and read the case histories, too, if it helps. They are kind of interspersed throughout the book.

[BlessedMama]

A few quotes about eating either protein or carbs alone:

"Never eat a protein by itself. Too much protein raises adrenaline/cortisol levels and will cause you to burn out your adrenal glands over time."

"Never eat a carbohydrate by itself. Eating carbohydrates alone causes a release of high amounts of insulin followed by a high release of adrenaline/cortisol if you are insulin-sensitive with healthy adenal glands. If you are insulin-resistant eating carbohydrates alone makes your insulin levels stay high or go even higher. If your adrenal glands are burned out, eating carbohydrates alone will never heal them."

[WendyD]

Trisch - Just so you know I read the thread!!! lol And picked up a couple of her books.

I was laughing at the right brain chat here. I always throw people because I'm both left and right brained, which throws people all the time. I can come up with the most logical creative solution to a problem. I used to scare people at work all the time. I worked with lots of left brained people. lol They never knew what to do with me.

[BlessedMama]

LOL Wendy! Glad you got the books!

Feel free to share any lightbulb moments!

Okay, guys, this morning my dds made baked oatmeal with fruit. I knew I needed some protein with it, but usually that is ALL I eat! So I scrambled and egg, and yes, I felt like I had to choke some of it down. But you know what? I felt pretty good after about half an hour, wasn't hungry for junk food in an hour or less, AND I had a tremendous workout later!

I tried to have a decent lunch--dd made a lentil stew last night. Not many in my family liked it, but I didn't mind it! It had a good balance of protein and carbs. I'm not doing so well on having a non-starchy veggie with each meal--but hey! Baby steps, right?! :)

Lunch is tough, but I think I might pick up some good canned salmon. I like salmon patties, and there was a similar recipe in Schwarzbein's cookbook.

I just thought I'd share my "journey", so you can see how I'm trying to do this using what we have on hand!

[okiemama]

I love this thread! I've always enjoyed researching many topics, and for the past few years health has been at the top of my list. I have Nourishing Traditions and a lot of that makes sense, it is hard to implement it for me. I've looked at Schwarzbein's books for a while, and finally bought The Transition last night. From the titles, it looks like Transition focuses on aging and The Program focuses on weight loss. Is this correct?

[Callicrowe]

Trisch, I like oatmeal for breakfast sometimes, but when I have it, I feel like it's too carb-heavy. That's one reason I've been doing green smoothies for breakfast... it's easy to get a balance of everything (protein, carb, fat, fiber). Depending on what time I have it (it can vary by several hours) it can easily last me till lunch. And it's an easy way to get greens for breakfast. Another other meal I sometimes do for breakfast (or even lunch or dinner) is scrambled eggs with sauteed veggies (onion, mushrooms, zucchini, spinach). But, it seems like the green smoothie is easier. It probably isn't, just seems that way. ;)

I've got to find time to do some reading in the Schwarzbein books!

[BlessedMama]

Actually, Toni, they both are on aging and reversing or stopping it by healing your metabolism. The Program just lays it out a little more for you with less "why-to" and The Transition covers all the reasons behind it all.

The premise is that you WILL release fat when the metabolism is healed.

HTH!

[shellysantafe]

Sounds very interesting...books are available at my local lib so will check them out. Esp interested in hormones/weight gain theories.

[thepurplepoodle]

Trisch-thank you for sharing your journey with us. I have all the books on hold at the library. Not sure when they will get here as someone else is on the wait list ahead of me. But I can't wait to read through them. I will be looking forward to your posts (as always!)

[chadzwife]

nah nah...i have no cravings :p
oh, scuse me. just wanted to brag a moment....i'm Hélène, brand spanking new to the forum, which I found by googling Schwarzbein forums lol
being off sugar, caffiene, chocolate is mindblowing. i still sometimes do get hungry but its for REAL food and its rare. and its NOT A Craving. Totally different, like WOW. I have yet to eat the 2 snax im supposed to be eating each day. i hate brkfst and have to make myself get it down, but i think its a key to the program. which in a nutshell is BALANCE.
BTW, i am barely 5-5 and i weigh 200lbs. im not one of those skinny chicks. in fact, im no spring chicken at all lol. this monday i turned 46 :0
diana's books are the most sensible thing out there as far as healing ur metab and thus, ur whole self. I am an advocate of WAPF and Nourishing Traditions too so Im into real foods, not the unfermented soy and "no milk" that dianas purports is necessary but those are minor quibbles. A plain glass of (raw) whole milk would be the perfect snax...15g carbs, protein with it and fat! Just add some more protein and diana would be happy too lol.
This science in these books is the bomb; Im a nutrition student and have taken ALOT of human biology besides my 3 decades of personal study. I think Diana is spot on :) I certainly, in my life, have fit exactly wat she writes about or case studies. Ive seen it in others too. This is true, real life permanent healing for our bodies.

[chadzwife]

Wouldn't it be nice, though, if we could lose 30lbs in one month????? :p

[john5]

I don't know if anyone has tried Suzanne Somers way of eating, but I think it's very similar to Diane Schwarzbein. I have all Suzanne Somers books and have not used them for several years but when I did they worked wonderful and I was NEVER hungry. I lost weight very quickly (14 lbs. in 2 weeks) and then 50 lbs. in the end. Now I can say I got pregnant with DD # 3 pretty quick after that and never did it seriously again. Anyway Dr. Schwarzbeib wrote the foreword in Suzannes books that I read. I just thought I throw it in here that her WOE would be a good one to try or read up on since they have similarities. Denise

[Grayce]

Trisch, I like oatmeal for breakfast sometimes, but when I have it, I feel like it's too carb-heavy. That's one reason I've been doing green smoothies for breakfast... it's easy to get a balance of everything (protein, carb, fat, fiber). Depending on what time I have it (it can vary by several hours) it can easily last me till lunch. And it's an easy way to get greens for breakfast. Another other meal I sometimes do for breakfast (or even lunch or dinner) is scrambled eggs with sauteed veggies (onion, mushrooms, zucchini, spinach). But, it seems like the green smoothie is easier. It probably isn't, just seems that way. ;)

I've got to find time to do some reading in the Schwarzbein books!I feel that way if I eat my oatmeal 'wrong'. I always soak it at night with whey and sea salt, and I also toss in a good two Tablespoons of wheat berries. When I do it that way, I feel great for 3 hours or so - instead of feeling that 'carb heavy' feeling.

[BlessedMama]

Peggy, I am just trying to do a variety of breakfasts (I like eggs, but not every day for breakfast! :p ), and I'm supposed to be doing green smoothies when dh comes home...working on that one!

Wendy, we'll just pray the people ahead of you are fast readers! :)

Welcome, Helene! (sorry I am illiterate when it comes to accent marks! I don't know how to make them!) That is really something! Does that mean I'm talking about Schwarzbein too much?! HaHa!

Yeah, I have a few minor quibbles with her, too, as I drink our goat's milk! I cannot choke down my vitamins AND an egg with my oatmeal with just water! LOL! Thank you for your input!

I don't know about losing 30 pounds in a month....not if I'm losing my hard-won muscle!!! As you can see from my signature line, I've actually lost very little "weight". I joke that I'm trading fat for muscle! Yeah!

john5, I've not read Suzanne Somers' book about her WOE. That says a lot if Dr. S. wrote the foreward!


In studying tonight through my ISSA trainer stuff, it said protein is mainly used for maintenance, repair and building tissue; carbohydrates are mainly used for energy. So we really need both, to break down for energy, but then to repair and build up muscle tissue. It's been interesting, reading Schwarzbein and then having the manual talking about basically the same thing!

In fact, if you don't have enough carbohydrate, the body will eat up the muscle it's using to create energy!!! :eek: And of course, if you don't get enough protein, you can't repair and rebuild!

Fascinating

[gillmings]

Suzanne Somers started out working with Diana Schwarzbein, but her WOE is ALL about food-combining, totally different from SP, in my opinion. SP is basically telling you to cover all the food groups at every meal and Suzanne advocates never eating carbs and fats together or protein and carbs (something like that - very confusing and would make my life totally miserable). You have to see what works for you and makes YOU feel better. Never eating carbs without a balanced amount of protein and healthy fat has TOTALLY changed my life for the better.

In metabolic typing, there are some types that rely on certain food combinations, but again, that is tailored to certain metabolisms. Thankfully, mine is not one of those types, but Suzanne's might be. (I have, however, gotten a lot of really good other info from Suzanne in regard to holistic health and hormone balancing.) I actually had a bit of trouble in the beginning with SP, trying to get enough protein without eating much meat. I don't eat much meat for several reasons, so I had to get creative with using lots of nuts and seeds and eating more eggs and cheese. Also, remember that SP doesn't list ALL the food options and didn't have some of the most up-to-date info on foods like EV coconut oil, so don't limit yourself to only the foods listed. Use your brain to understand the principle and then figure out how to apply it beyond the examples given in the book. THAT is the benefit of reading the whole second book -- you're not just tied to the examples given.

[BlessedMama]

Good points, Moyne! I think it's great Dr S. gives her menu options to get you started, but yes, understanding the balance is really key. That's what I'm gleaning in the midst of it all this time around--so I can figure out how to do this and still eat most of the time with my family!

[MiPaloma]

I don't know if anyone has tried Suzanne Somers way of eating, but I think it's very similar to Diane Schwarzbein. I have all Suzanne Somers books and have not used them for several years but when I did they worked wonderful and I was NEVER hungry. I lost weight very quickly (14 lbs. in 2 weeks) and then 50 lbs. in the end. Now I can say I got pregnant with DD # 3 pretty quick after that and never did it seriously again. Anyway Dr. Schwarzbeib wrote the foreword in Suzannes books that I read. I just thought I throw it in here that her WOE would be a good one to try or read up on since they have similarities. Denise

Denise, which of her books do you own? Our library doesn't carry the Schwarzbeib books, but they have several of Suzannes . . . can you help me narrow the 12 book scope? LOL

[john5]

Angi,
I have Eat Great, Lose Weight, Fast and Easy, get Skinny on Fabulous Food and Eat, Cheat and Melt the Fat Away. I really need to look into Dr. S WOE a little more. With food combining, you really do need to watch what you are putting together. I think Food combining would work well with GM/MM, but it's not a do all the time thing ( IMO). I am to the point that if I try to eat well it shouldn't matter how I combine them because if you try to eat a balanced meal I should be fine. I think most of us run into the problem of when to stop eating/when you are full. I did well with Suzanne and I also did very well counting calories (both take a lot of commitment) Thanks, Denise

[WendyD]

Trisch - Have you tried a scoop of whey mixed with your oatmeal?

I have a very strange way of eating oatmeal - I make it old fashioned oats so it's firm and grainy (too mushy = ewww!), insert chunks of cheddar cheese (they melt in the hot cereal) and a little butter and salt on top. Now, this grosses my family out, but it's really good to me. I haven't read the book yet, so I don't know if it's even allowed in the plan.

RE - Food combining - The Fat Flush has a section in the maintenance plan that is about food combining and it was to much for me to figure out. Well, it was the part that tipped my willingness to bend to where it broke. I haven't seen it in her other books (one protein at a meal, beans can't be eaten with meat, don't combine meat with gluten, don't eat veggies and fruit together, no milk and meat together etc.) Way to hard to go out to eat and get all the rules figured out.

[Callicrowe]

I used to try to follow the food-combining way of eating, but it just wasn't practical for me at the time so I fell away from it. I did hold onto one principle.... eating fruit first, and by itself. Now I'm not supposed to eat carbs alone, so that messes up that idea. I do like apples and peanut butter (or almond butter) but I haven't figured out what kind of protein I could eat with an orange that would be tasty. I'd rather eat the orange by itself.

There's a post on the nutrition forum about chia pudding. I'm trying it out... there are lots of recipes online for it. It's similar to tapioca, which I like, so I'm hoping I like this. It is very nutritious.

[BlessedMama]

Dr. S. isn't a fan of food combining, really. Not from what I've read. I tried it for awhile and it was very difficult for me, too. Especially with a family used to eating the other way!

From her FAQ section in The Transition:

"What do you think about food combining?

"I do not believe in food combining because the proponents of food combining want you to eat carbohyrrates and vegetables or proteins, fats and vegetables only. Eating this way causes hormonal imbalances. It is important to eat from the four food groups together to regenerate and keep your hormones balanced."

(p. 474)

In one of her books, I thought she used an orange and something as an example of a snack...she has hard boiled eggs with grapefruit, does that count?! LOL!

My goal is to just do what I can with what I have. Tonight we had stuffed baked potatoes with cottage cheese and colby/jack melted cheese. Not enough protein for the carbs, I know! And it was my 13 yodd that made dinner, and she is just learning, so we didn't have a vegetable!

I did two sets of HDs and call it good. I know I won't be able to be extreme on this. Now, if I were really totally burned out, that might necessitate drastic measures, but I'm going to see how I do just doing the best I can.

Today was pretty good--breakfast was a smoothie (I know Dr. S isn't a fan of that, either, but I do what I can!). I added cottage cheese to help with the protein, although I realize it added carbs. I actually had a hard time getting it down this morning--and I love my smoothies, so I'm not sure why! I think part of it is I have almost trained my body to not have a good breakfast, so the tummy was like, "WHAT?!"

Lunch was leftovers from last night (a mexican lasagna, layered corn tortillas, beans and chicken) and sour cream. I'm still needing to get my veggies in, but I'm working on it!

I think I said before my main goal right now is to try to get the balanced meals with protein/carbohydrates. Then I'll concentrate on getting the non-starchy veggies in more regularly.

And I had a York Peppermint Pattie, too! Just so you know I am NOT perfect! :rolleyes:

[BlessedMama]

This is really important for anyone who is used to "restricted calorie eating"--what most dieting is.


"If you do not get enough food into your body because you are restricting calcories, your brain will run out of fuel. This causes your body to secrete adrenaline to 'eat itself up' in order to keep your brain alive. This means that you are using up your functional and structural biochemicals and causing more damage to your metabolism. To keep this from happening, it is important that you never diet another day in your life."

(The Transition, p. 72)

[john5]

Blessed Mama, that's really interesting that Dr. S is not a fan of Food combining. I really need to get some of her books. Really IMOHO I don't think it(Suz. Somers) is a practical WOE, it was a thing I thought I'd try. It worked for me but I like my normal WOF eating and I don't have to be so strict about what I eat. IMO I think that trying Dr. S and Suzannes on GM days would be a great way to eat. I like my comfort food here and there way to much to give them up forever. Now Suz Somers does have a level 2 section in her books. You can add the forbidden foods on her list to your meals, which might have some really good recipes somebody might want to try. One that comes to mind was her Chicken pot pie. Denise

[Grayce]

ACCCKKKKKKKKKKKK!! WHAT IS WOE?? thank you.

[ayj67]

WOE - Way of Eating

[Callicrowe]

Trisch,
Why does she not like smoothies? By the way, I just got SP The Transition in the mail today. Guess it's time to start reading.

[BlessedMama]

Peggy, here is a section from p. 282 on The Transition:

"I have ben asked countless times why I do not recommend food bars, protein shakes or other types of liquid shakes as meal replacements.
The answers are simple:

~They are not real food.

~They o not contain healthy ingredients.

~They are not a balanced meal; they either have too many carbohydrates or too many proteins.

~They usually are filled with refined or artifical sugars.

~They usually contain too much salt.

~They are poor sources of protein.

~They contain damaged fats and other toxic chemicals.

~They go through your digestive system and enter your bloostream too quickly, causing unwanted hormonal fluctuations.

However, if you an find food bars that do not contain chemicals and are made from healthy foods, you may eat them as a snack as long as you balance them with the food groups that are missing."


That all said, I plan to still do green smoothies, and sometimes have a smoothie for breakfast. I think she is more concerned for the meal replacement stuff you buy vs. creating your own with good, wholesome ingredients. Plus, by making your own, you usually are using the whole fruit or veggie, so you are still getting good fiber to help slow it getting to your bloodstream too quickly.

And of course, you'd want to make sure you are balancing your nutrients. If it's carb loaded, you need some quality protein. Too much protein, you should add some good carbs.

My dd heard of some "weight loss" thing yesterday--drinking TWO "shakes" a day and eat one normal meal. And Dr. S. is right--a lot of that stuff has nasty ingredients that aren't good for the metabolism!

HTH!

[gillmings]

I don't consider a "meal replacement shake" to be in the same category as a green smoothie. In fact, I think that a properly made smoothie is the PERFECT way to get the nutrient balance correct -- right down to the veggie requirement, especially for breakfast. If you're using whole foods, rather than powders or the like, you've got it made. I use raw goat milk kefir and hemp hearts for the protein and some fat (and a bit of carbs), lots of leafy greens, and berries for low-glycemic fruit and to make it all taste good. I also add a spoonful of EV coconut oil to get enough healthy fat, stevia to taste, and a pinch of Celtic sea salt.

[OzFriend]

I'm with Moyne, I don't think a green smoothie is in any way comparable to those diet meal replacement shakes and those shakes are what is seems Dr S is talking about in her book. My children love their green smoothies and it's the only way I'm going to get a lot of raw greens into their diet so I'm not giving them up. I don't use them as a meal replacement (we have them for afternoon tea) and mine definitely have more vegies than fruit as well as coconut oil (or milk), yoghurt, fish oil and whatever else depending on what I have available, the only thing is I probably need to look at getting more protein into them but I don't think that's a big deal at the moment.

[BlessedMama]

I honestly don't put them in the same category, either. However, you'd want to make sure you weren't doing smoothies all the time vs. eating meals due to being too busy or "losing weight" (I've known some people who didn't do the "meal replacements" but still drank more than they ate to try to lose weight).

I wholeheartedly agree that you can make a very nutritious smoothie with wholesome ingredients and balanced nutrients!

[gunnersmom]

Okay, I'm sold! I am going to order the Transition tonight and search around to see what I can find on the net. I am a pretty healthy cook with the exception of not enough variety of veggies. I still have a weight problem but I believe with all my heart its more my thyroid issues than anything else and I have been working on getting that under control.

Thanks for the wealth of info you provide this board, Trisch. Please know it is appreciated.

[BlessedMama]

Oh, thank you, gunnersmom! Sounds like you already are off to a great start! Feel free to share any a-ha's or tidbits with us!

[gunnersmom]

Well, I had my first aha! I was given a gift certificate for B&N at Christmas time and purchased the transition and the program and couple other books not health related. Then I found the Schwartzbein website. I took that GI test and it recommended either test D or C, but they would not give me A or B. Test D costs $495! Way out of my price range at this time. So, I guess I will have to accept I have severe GI issues, read the books and hope I can follow the program, get healthier, and still not know exactly what is wrong with me.

I do believe her theories on inflammation, though. I think in the end it will kill you. I never thought of having inflammation in my digestive tract though, I've always fussed about my swollen feet, ankles, and knees. Who knew?

One thing I have come to realize about myself is how destructive sugar and flour is to my system. When I eat the combination I get gas so bad it hurts my stomach. And I automatically have diarrhea the next morning. ALWAYS. Just in the past few years I've also noticed the brain fog coming in with this type of eating. So, why do I do it? I'm not an every day sweet and flour eater, but I do eat it and always feel so bad afterward.

Trisch, did you take a GI test?

[BlessedMama]

I didn't do a test, either. Yeah, out of my price range!

Have you thought of going gluten free for awhile? I think gluten is a culprit more than we know. My dd who is gf and I went to a seminar last spring where we learned that grains now have like...80%? more gluten than 50 years ago!

And of course, a lot of gut issues are also inflammation issues! The more I also learn with my trainer materials, the more I realize just how easy one part out of whack can adversely affect the rest of the body!


I went gf for about 3 months and intended to stay on it for the most part. Then my mom died unexpectedly, and I just couldn't focus on it at that time (although it sure would have been better for me!). I just knew emotionally I could only handle dealing with so much. I'm ready to address my eating, and my plan was to go gf after the first, but I'm not 100% there yet! I am cutting way back, though. I feel better, less brain fog and less gas when I stay away from gluten. Just an idea!

[gunnersmom]

Yes, I have thought/ am thinking of going gluten free. I'm just not sure how to do it! I suppose if I'm going to do this right, I need to study and do it all! Like you with your trainer material, I've taken on some independent study of my own to try to ease into a new career to at least supplement my current job. That job has gone from 40+ hours per week to 20-24. There is only so much time to study in a day!

I guess I am going to use your advise backwards. I will look for some quick ways to implement the program from the last book, and then study the facts behind the program in the transition. It should all work out.

[BlessedMama]

Yes, I'm sure it will all work out!

There is a thread about going gluten free--I think started by Wendy (Thepurplepoodle). A lot of people share favorite blogs, etc. on there. That might help get you started!

Here's the link: http://forum.t-tapp.com/showthread.php?70303-Going-Gluten-Free

[just7]

Please tell me that this is all "doable"!! I will confess that I'm totally scared!! I hate feeling like I'm doing horrible by what we are currently eating. Like someone else said--there are SOOO many ideas out there and experts and research and...and...and...

I don't want to feel guilty if we eat pancakes or have some chips. But I DOOO want to be providing a much more balanced diet that will actually meet the true nutrition needs of the family!

[BlessedMama]

Jennifer, I had waffles this morning--with maple syrup! I really didn't want an egg, so I went and got a chicken wing from last night! :) Not very conventional!

I think it IS doable, as long as you keep the principles of balancing and, just like T-Tapp, take baby steps!

Yes, it may take a bit longer to rebuild your metabolism....but if you stress out over eating, THAT isn't helping your metabolism, either!

I'll be posting what I eat a lot, so people can see that I am NOT doing it 100% perfect, but heading towards the principles of it.

HTH!

[just7]

Yes, it does help. Thanks, Trisch!!
Hugs

[gunnersmom]

Yes, I'm sure it will all work out!

There is a thread about going gluten free--I think started by Wendy (Thepurplepoodle). A lot of people share favorite blogs, etc. on there. That might help get you started!

Here's the link: http://forum.t-tapp.com/showthread.php?70303-Going-Gluten-Free


Thanks for the link. You always go so above and beyond with your help of others. I'll say a prayer of thanksgiving for you tonight, Trisch.

[Callicrowe]

I got my other book in the mail today, so now I have them all. I probably wouldn't have ordered them all if the prices hadn't been so good. One was 3.50 and one was 4.00 and I ordered something else that I wanted to get my total up to $25 and got free shipping. The books were "used" but they look brand new and unread. Now to make the time to read. I have a question about the program, but I want to see if I can find the answer in the book before I ask it here. Sometimes I'm too lazy for my own good, so I'll make myself work a bit.

[BlessedMama]

That's great, Peggy, that you found them all used! Yeah, my used copies have been like new, too!

Hopefully your question will get answered! I don't have all the answers, either, but will be glad to help if I can!

{{{gunnersmom}}} you're a sweetie!

[thepurplepoodle]

One of the books that I put on hold came in today. It was Transitions. It looks like its been around the block more than just a few times...so it must be good - LOL! I will start digging in tonight. Thanks for the info, Trisch!

[BlessedMama]

LOL Wendy! Happy reading!

I need to get back to reading Schwarzbein--and posting how I'm doing! I've been kind of focused on my ISSA trainer materials lately.... ;)

[gunnersmom]

Hello, ladies! I haven't yet received my books (sigh) but I did manage to find them all on google books with big huge portions of each one there for the reading.

Bearing in mind, I am no expert and may have this all screwed up but here's what I've eaten in the past two days.

Monday b: 16 oz blueberry-banana smoothie made with home made yogurt and hemp hearts. Two celery sticks with natural peanut butter.

L: (I was really hungry by lunch time, no in between snacks, I'm just not really a snacker.) Chicken breast marinated in Italian dressing and topped with a tbs or so of dijon mustard, baked in the oven. Said chicken breast topped with one thin slice of provolone cheese and wrapped in corn tortilla. Steamed broccoli and cauliflower with butter.

D: (Bad bad bad) Broasted chicken and jo jos.


Tuesday B: Two scrambled egss topped with provolone sitting on top of a corn tortilla. 4 oz of above smoothie. A couple pieces of celery with the pb.

L: Same as yesterday

D: 2 egg omelet with bacon and cheddar, onion and pepper, one potato hash brown pattie, home made yogurt with strawberries.


What do you think? Mind you, I have no clue if I'm following the rules except trying to do the protein/carb thing and not really sure about that.

[BlessedMama]

I think you're doing well! You're even doing well with the non-starchy veggies--something I'm still working on!

Main thing is to make sure you're getting enough protein over the entire day. Her "formula" is to divide your weight by 2.2 to fine your weight in kilograms. Then multiply first by 1.0 and then multiply the kilogram weight by 1.25. That gives you your minimum range. Then you can divide by 7 (grams) to get the amount in ounces of protein.

An example for a 150 lb. person:

150 divided by 2.2 or 68 kg.
Should eat between 68 and 85 grams of protein daily, or 10-12 ounces at minimum.

I'm trying to loosely follow that and split my protein up throughout the day. I know for a fact if you don't get enough protein you can burn out your adrenals--I did that a year and a half ago!!! :(

HTH!

My day was an omelet for breakfast--I should have had a veggie, too, but didn't....lunch was a chicken rice soup leftover from last night, with probably 2 oz. of chicken in it. Supper was beans and rice (the family had tortillas, but I decided the rice was probably enough carbs!). My snacks were not as helpful today! I was teaching piano and just not as on top of it today. But tomorrow is a new day, and you've inspired me, gunnersmom! HUGS!

[Callicrowe]

By these calculations, I should get a minimum of 9-11 oz. of protein per day. So if I get about three ounces per meal, plus a little more in snacks, I should be good to go. I really don't want to have to start looking stuff up as to how much protein is in this or that. I usually just try to make sure I get a sufficient amount with each meal, but it's not always easy. I don't gravitate to protein... I gravitate to carbs.

[Callicrowe]

My day was an omelet for breakfast--I should have had a veggie, too, but didn't....

No veggies in your omelette? :confused:

[BlessedMama]

Well, a bit of green onion....our produce co-op pick up day got changed, I forgot that, and so we are slightly veggie challenged around here until Thursday! :rolleyes:

[Callicrowe]

Well, a bit of green onion....our produce co-op pick up day got changed, I forgot that, and so we are slightly veggie challenged around here until Thursday! :rolleyes:

Aha, I see. I thought it strange that you wouldn't put veggies in an omelet when your goal was to eat more veggies. Now I get it, though.

[gunnersmom]

If my books ever come and I get a really good grasp of what I am I know that I will end up with several different items in a breakfast and lunch rotation and just stick with them. Sometimes it seems like all I do is shop for food, plan meals, and prepare food and there are only two of us! So, it's just so much easier to have a few good things in my meal rotation that both of us enjoy and can be easily made.

I took fresh veggies, cukes, carrots, celery, broccoli, and cauliflower to work along with a home made blue cheese dressing for the snacking but just never got around to eating any of it. Then I was going to eat them at lunch, raw, but ended up steaming them instead. Cold here, hot meals desired.

I made yogurt this past weekend and read somewhere that the longer you keep it at 115 degrees, the more tart it becomes. I do add a bit of sweetener to my yogurt but I love that tart taste in the background. So, instead of 10 hours in the dehydrator, I left it in for 18. It may be the thickest, creamiest yogurt I've ever eaten. Almost like pudding. That may not appeal to all, but I really like it. The pups like it a lot, too!

We are having what I call New England Dinner tonight. It has a roast with potatoes and carrots and onions cooked around it. The carrots become a starchy veggie when cooked. I hate cooked carrots in large pieces but can tolerate them in small ones, so I will give them a try tonight for the starchy, combined with the potatoes (which I love....)

No work today, we are in the middle of a big snow and the roads are too bad. So, it would be wonderful if the books would come, if not, I may read on google for a while.

[gunnersmom]

I just finished up a week of Schwarzbein (no book YET) and the scales told me this morning that I was 10 lbs. lighter. Imagine that! I know its fluid but that's okay because I feel better in my clothes this week and my face is a bit thinner.

I didn't have too much trouble last week with eating, I didn't eat as much as it appears she encourages, who knows, I may not have even been on Schwartzbein at all since the only thing I've read is free on google books. I can't believe Barnes and Noble has such poor shipping. I would have had them from Amazon by Tuesday at the latest. I'll never order from B&N again (unless someone else gives me a gift certificate....)

Just thought you all would like to know.

[Callicrowe]

gunnersmom,
That has to be so frustrating waiting for your books to come! Amazon orders always come so quickly, even from their third-party vendors. Sounds like you must be doing something right, though! Even if you hadn't lost anything, feeling better in your clothes is great! I'd take that right now over inch loss... my waist bands are snug. Not so much in the morning, but as the day goes on they get moreso. I really want to get into the books... they are sitting on my counter waiting for me. Hope yours come soon!

[thepurplepoodle]

Wow Gunnersmom! Thanks for the inspiration!

[BlessedMama]

Yes,thanks for sharing your journey!

I was hoping to get back to sharing mine, but woke up sick today. :( But I'll be back at it soon!

Keep up the good work, gunnersmom!

[gunnersmom]

Peggy, I owe you a big thank you for all the interest you've generated on the Chia pudding thread! For additional laughs in my Barnes and Noble Woes, I ordered Chia seeds after reading about them here and other places, on MONDAY and they were here Wednesday. So, they beat the crap out of those books!

I've tried the chia pudding once, with a little Lyle's golden syrup, vanilla, and some banana slices. It actually filled me totally up. This morning as I was packing my goodies for work, I added some chia water to a half bottle of Italian dressing. Maybe made it 3/4 full. I like to marinate chicken breasts in Italian dressing and either grill or broil them. I thought the chia water would stretch the dressing while adding some protein, etc. It was pretty good!

I got three pounds of chemical free chia seeds for around 16 dollars, no shipping charges. Considering the daily serving is 3 tbs of chia water three times a day, this stuff should last forever.

And thanks so much to you and Wendy for being so kind. I really was pleased when I weighed this morning. I went way too crazy on Christmas goodies this year. Its all gone and more, today!

[gunnersmom]

Thanks, Trisch. I really appreciate the heads up on this WOE. Last spring or so, I tried the Daniel Fast but it just wasn't for me. I wasn't on it long enough to give it a fair chance, but thinking back on it, I found it difficult to manage. I don't think that will be the case with TSP. Schwarzbein seems like a saner Atkins to me. More rounded and easier to eat from your pantry, not quite as expensive, either.

Sorry to hear you are ill. Praying you recover quickly.

[Callicrowe]

Trisch, you can't be sick! That is not allowed, no, no, no! :( I hope you shake it off quickly. Get plenty of rest, eat right, do a bit of Tapping... you'll be fit as a fiddle in no time.:clappinghands:

[BlessedMama]

Thanks, Peggy! I said the same thing! "I don't have time to be sick!" :laughing:

I am feeling a tad bit better--not eating much right now. Teresa's grapefruit oil in water is really helping settle my tummy!

[Anna Louise]

Hello!

I'm back on the forums. I took a hiatus when I got a double whammy; The sacroiliac joint diagnosis seemed a lot to handle, but I thought I could deal with it. Then I got the news of something called Gluten Ataxia, having something to do with my new found clumsiness and anxiety. The gluten ataxia is thought to be related to the celiac disease I was finally diagnosed with in May. Basically, my little small intestine villi were under attack and suffered, as a result I wasn't getting enough of he critical oil-soluble vitamins needed to sustain nerve and brain function. So I walk like I'm a little tipsy. This is a perfect time to adopt a new walking pattern! I can practice SATI until it becomes my usual way of walking and if I eat well, perhaps my nerves will heal. So, Schwarzbein and T-Tapp sound like a saving grace. Now if I could just develop more consistency... and pray for a healing.

[BlessedMama]

Wow, Anna-Louise! Those are quite the diagnoses!!!

Glad you have found what was wrong though--sometimes that is the greatest hurdle!

Will be praying for you to be able to be consistent and for healing!

HUGS!

[Anna Louise]

Thanks BlessedMama!

[OzFriend]

I just got my book and I've spent all day reading it (in between looking after the children and doing chores).

It makes a lot of sense and from what I've read so far it doesn't seem like my metabolism is all that damaged. What I need to do now is start preparing food plans so I can buy the right ingredients and start to get my head around not being able to eat bread (that will be hard).

[Anna Louise]

There is gluten-free bread at the market that's allowable on Schwarzbein. Here in the US there's Udi's G-F bread and other products.

[pixiedust]

If you eat carbs in order to give your adrenals some relief, which she says may/will raise your blood sugar, would hoe downs lower your blood sugar and get in the way of healing the adrenals?

[BlessedMama]

Hmmm...now that's a question! I know for the longest time I could only do 1 set of HDs at a time, and I usually did not do one after each meal. So maybe I inadvertently did a good thing?!

Maybe at first don't stress about doing HDs after a meal. Then as you think you're feeling better, add in a HD now and then but maybe not to full force activation, and only 1 set.

And I believe you are always eating carbs along with some protein, which definitely helps the blood sugar from rising too high. When you're in this rebuilding phase, sometimes you have to make some concessions--this isn't the time to focus on pushing yourself to lose inches. If you have blood sugar issues anyway, I'd definitely make sure you had some protein with the carbs, then if you really felt you should do a HD, do as I said earlier--only 1 set and not to full activation. Just some thoughts!

I'll be honest--I'm not 100% perfect on this. I've had homemade pancakes or waffles with pure maple syrup. Just not 3 or 4! And we make our own with whole grains.

Same with the breads--I had cut back on bread just because I knew I was getting way too many carbs, especially when we ate lots of pasta dishes for awhile. Again, we make our own, mixing whole wheat with unbleached flour, so it's definitely better than most storebought.

I would think Ezekiel bread or the gluten free breads would be okay. Ezekiel bread especially has a lot of nutrients in it.

I remind myself that the key is moderation. I suppose someone who has a severely damaged metabolism might need to be more strict, but I have to make this work with our budget and still eating with my family. My dh can handle more carbs than me, so when breakfast is a homemade wheat cereal and muffins, I make myself an egg and find a different carb! ;)

I don't mind making myself something else for breakfast and lunch, but dh really likes us to eat together as a family. He certainly understands that sometimes you need certain food to heal, so he's not dogmatic about it! LOL! But I try, as much as possible, to eat what's on the table being mindful of the basic principles of SB.

Well, not sure if that helps anybody or not! LOLOL!

Yesterday I hardly ate anything. Today I'm going slow and easy! Sure is tough when you get these tummy viruses! :p

[pixiedust]

I appreciate your thoughts on this, Trisch. Sometimes I over think things but learning new stuff can get confusing when you already thought you knew what was the right thing!

I did gain back the 25 ponds lost with T-tapp and freaked out so started cutting way back on carbs. That was about 16 months ago and right now I'm only wishing and hoping the pounds leave again someday. But mainly I need and want to feel better physically. I self medicate using black tea w/good cream occasionally and have been using lacto fermented pickles whenever I CRAVE chocolate or sweets, which is often. Hopefully I haven't gone back and forth too many times and I'm getting closer to balance.

I only do one set of hoe downs at a time and other than that can manage PBS and MORE my home thru oil wells twice a week, if that. During my first two years of tapping, I always felt better after a workout, even if i had to make myself to do it, but that is no longer the case so it's harder to push play. It's frustrating and sad because the thought is in my head that it will feel good to work out. Whine, sigh, just tired of being tired.

You are an amazing woman/wife/mom/friend and your constant encouragement to this board is such a blessing!

Take care,

Joann

[BlessedMama]

OH, HUGS JoAnn!

I would say you definitely have adrenal fatigue. Just do what you can, even if it's just a move or two from MORE. And remember, as you're healing, you may well put on some weight, but it WILL eventually come off as your metabolism heals.

After Mom died, I knew I could NOT stress about what I ate, even "eating well". I ate way more chocolate (my stress food!) and carbs, and barely did 1-2 workouts a week. I knew my adrenals took a big hit with her unexpected passing, and I knew enough to just let things go for now. I didn't use it as an excuse to "pig out", but I didn't beat myself up over it, either.

I kept coming here to the forums, even if I wasn't "doing" anything, workout-wise, for the encouragement and support, to stay connected. I knew T-Tapp would be here for me when I was ready!

I did get back into a little more working out last fall, but now I'm emotionally ready to tackle it now, along with addressing the eating again. So you have to know how much you can handle.

Just doing a few key moves is important, so don't worry if you can't do a whole workout! And do what you can with your eating as you're ready. Probably the biggest issue we mamas and carb-a-holics have is getting enough protein, especially along WITH that carb! ;) So my focus is to have some almonds (yes, I know, high fat and they have carbs, but still better than having a bagel or cookie all by itself!)

If you haven't already, do read this page from Dr. S's website--she explains the healing phase about half-way down, but the whole page is good to refer to when you're discouraged about the healing process.

http://www.schwarzbeinprinciple.com/pgs/program/transitn_read_more.html

HUGS to you again!

[Anna Louise]

Can anyone tell me what would make cottage cheese and grapefruit into a Schwarzbein meal? It's me very favorite breakfast and I seem to need the extra taurine in the cottage cheese.

[BlessedMama]

Well, she lists unsweetened applesauce with cottage cheese as a balanced snack!

One of her breakfasts listed in a menu plan in The Transition is 1/2 c cottage cheese with 1/2 cup strawberries and 1/2 small apple, raw veggies.

So maybe your grapefruit could take the place of the strawberries and apple. That would mean just add some raw veggies to make it balanced as a meal.

Another spot I saw she added a handful of almonds to a cottage cheese/fruit/veggie breakfast.

HTH!

[frankcassiesmom]

You know what's delicious? 1/2 cup cottage cheese, finely chopped apple, a few chopped walnuts, cinnamon and a little stevia. One of my favorite things.

[OzFriend]

I think I'm going to struggle with balancing the meals, getting everything in the right proportion. We eat a lot of carbs, I never realized just how much, so cutting back and adding more protein and veggies will take some thinking.

[BlessedMama]

I know what you mean, Sonia!

Kim, great idea! I forgot about walnuts--YUM! :licklips:

[WendyD]

I'm off to make Kim's snack. I've skimmed the one book I got. So technically, it's not read.

Hey Trisch - How ya feelin'?

[pixiedust]

This whole board has the most caring and generous spirt! I have hope again. Thank you!

Joann

[Grayce]

Is anybody using her sample meal planners, or just going w/the flow type of idea?

[Callicrowe]

When I finally get around to reading more about it, I'll just be going with the flow, not using her specific planners. I probably just need to tweak my current way of eating, but not sure how yet.

[OzFriend]

I think at the beginning I need more help than just going with the flow so I'm thinking I might the cook book as well. I just need to get started and get it firmly into my mind what balanced meals are supposed to look like. Once I've been doing it for a while I'm sure it will become easier.

[BlessedMama]

Laura, I kind of go with the flow, but I do use her menu plans for ideas. I'm still learning and trying to make it work with our budget and large family logistics, too! :)

Sonia, I have the cookbook, too, and it is good! I have made a few things from there (although it's been awhile!) and my dd was going to try a recipe in there soon! The nice thing is when I fix food this way, it's still something my whole family can eat vs. some weird food they don't like! LOL!

I know when I did SB a few years ago, I really followed her menu plan ideas more closely. Once I got a feel for it, I could incorporate it more into some of our favorite meals. Then life happened and I definitely got out of practice! So I'm trying to get back into that "groove" again! Our biggest problem is making sure we're having veggies at every meal. Working on it, though!

Wendy, I'm feeling MUCH better! Puny today, but as the day wore on I felt much better. Still not super energetic!

HUGS to Joann!

[HealthyMum]

I read the Book and have got the cookbook on the way. Can't wait!

[just7]

I haven't gotten The Transition yet. I have The Principle and The Program and the cookbook. Soooo---we don't have to eat eggs every morning??? I know that we need to bring more variety into our meals as a whole in the family.

Also---you need carbs to help heal your adrenals??? (I haven't read that yet in Schwarzbein's books) I'm borderline pre-diabetic and I'm supposed to be careful about grains....only one serving a day. Even though we grind our own wheat and make our own bread.......

Hopefully I can get back into reading so I can get this all straight in my head.

[gunnersmom]

Good morning, ladies!

Glad to see Trisch is feeling better. I had an ear ache yesterday when I awoke. I used my good old oil of oregano. Couple drops in the ear, a half dropper under the tongue, and rubbed a little on the ear/throat area for good measure. Repeated last night and this morning it doesn't even hurt, though I am having some equilibrium issues.

:clappinghands::clappinghands::clappinghands:The books came yesterday! Feeling as I was, I put a quick dinner on the table and was in bed with my new possessions by 7PM. I read for about two hours and learned quite a bit. I know for pretty sure I am insulin resistant and adrenal challenged. I'm sure somewhere in the back of the book she tells you just how to deal with that, but I haven't made it that far. I am equally sure that I will be on the restricted version of the plan, if there is such an animal.

What I like about it is that she isn't trying to force you into some draconian change in your eating plan ALA Atkins and induction.

She actually wants you to chose what you can do and introduce and when you are comfortable with that. It appears to be a plan with a plan.



On a personal note, remember I told you I lost 10 lbs? Well, when I got dressed this morning, my sweater is absolutely HANGING from the breasts down. I bought this sweater last winter and it gently held onto my tummy. Not skin tight, but you could see where it was clinging (the biggest part). Well, this morning, for the first time, it is hanging vertically with no interruption along the way.


VIC TOR EE VIC TOR EE !:laughing:

[BlessedMama]

WOO-HOO gunnersmom! :clappinghands: That means even more than the pounds lost, eh?!

And glad you got to feeling better so quickly! I have Oil of Oregano--didn't realize how versatile it is! :D

Jennifer, in my studies I'm finding that we need carbs to process protein! Isn't that interesting?

Although yes, you'd want to be careful, remember there are carbs in better choice grains such as rice, in nuts, even in veggies and fruits (especially root veggies). As you look at her menu plans and snack ideas, you'll see a slice of bread here and there, or crackers, but there is more variety than just grains. Does that make sense?

You do NOT want to go low carb. She does have a lower than recommended for some severe issues, but you do not stay there. Like gunnersmom, what I find very appealing about SB is you can EAT! LOL! In fact, the struggle for me on SB is eating enough!

But part of my problem is that while I haven't embraced "dieting" per se, I still had the mindset of "I need to eat a bit less". But I'm also a grazer, so I tended to snack anyway. When I hit my adrenal crash a year and a half ago, two things contributed--one, I was pushing myself too much with workouts, and two, I was trying to do Mastering Leptin. I had cut out the before bed snack and then cut out the morning snack and....crashed. Not because ML was wrong, but wrong for me. I couldn't get enough protein in the 3 meals, especially with the added stress of overdoing it workout-wise.

I will stick with SB. If someone can get all their requirements in 3 meals, that's fine, but if you have adrenal and insulin issues, it may be prudent to have protein/carb balanced snack in there to help keep your blood sugar up.

In my personal trainer manual, they even recommend people doing weight training eat 1/2 cottage cheese before bed to help keep the body from going into the catabolic state during sleep! I know I actually feel much better in the mornings when I have a balanced snack before bed!

Just some random thoughts! ;)

[gunnersmom]

It did make me feel very good! Loose clothes are much more real than lbs. on a scale.

I have a little treat for you, Trisch. I buy my OoO from JCrowe.com and here is a nice article they've taken from a book about all the things OoO is good for.

http://www.jcrowsmarketplace.com/oreganoessentialoil.aspx

It's quite the power house.


I had a nice breakfast this morning waiting for the roads to clear up and the sun to come up. That was at 7AM. By 11:15 I was starving. I could feel the insulin drop in my body, the shakes, everything, so I made myself lunch and am just now coming back to a bit of normal feeling.

I've noticed before reading TSP sugar spikes, brain fog from sweets, etc., but this seemed so weird because I had just eaten four hours earlier. I rarely get that hungry that quickly. I think my body is buying into this snack between meals thing.

[gunnersmom]

I would also add about OoO, last year I put a couple drops under my tongue every morning before work and I never had so much a s a sore throat. There are a lot of people in and out of here (work) and traveling and I didn't pick up anything, even when they were getting sick and coughing all over the place.

[thepurplepoodle]

"The Program" just came in from the library. I spent the little time I had last night perusing. Plan to dig much deeper today. I can tell, already, that I have not been eating enough good carbs. I've probably had too much protein and not enough carbs. I have been avoiding sugar and white flour like the plague. But also have become afraid of most grains. Wonderful to know that it need not be so!!!!!! Of course, I'm still dealing with a lot of digestive issues, and I know she addresses that. I have much to learn! I did skip to the menu plan section to plan a balanced breakfast. I had oatmeal with cinnamon and nutmeg, a few blueberries and walnuts mixed in, and 1.5 hard boiled eggs.

I was given a Barnes and Noble gift card for Christmas and just ordered the cookbook. I also ordered the Nourishing Traditions cookbook since I have checked it out of the library 8 times now...and I always have to wait for that one!

Trisch - thanks for all the info here. I can't wait to get started!

[thepurplepoodle]

Again - way to go Gunnersmom!!!

[gunnersmom]

Thanks, Wendy. Good luck. I'm going to spend the next few days reading and learning. We can just all take this journey together!

It would really be wonderful if we shared our meal plans, good or bad, and discussed why they are good or bad. I'm hoping I can keep some variation during this. Even when not dieting, I find myself going through the same rotation over and over again. It's just so easy to make what you are good at and like.

[Callicrowe]

Sharing ideas for meals sounds like a good idea! I think we all tend to get stuck in ruts with meals.

[OzFriend]

Sharing ideas for meals sounds like a great idea to me too.

I haven't started eating the SP way yet as we have a lot of food to eat up before we can. I refuse to throw away all the food in the pantry and freezer that doesn't fit with SP so as we eat it I'll start replacing it with better choices and slowly will start cooking better meals.

[BlessedMama]

I think sharing meal plans is a good idea, too!

Sonia, I totally understand! I know some of our transition is going to be slower, but that's okay! I'm not having mutiny by telling everyone "No you can't have dessert all the time!" We usually make wholesome things, but we have dessert after supper far too many times! I think it's from all the crises in our family the past 6 years--when people bring meals over, they always bring yummy desserts, too! We joked that the younger dc think dessert is a born right! :laughing:

Right now, I'm just eating what I think will not aggravate my tummy. DD made a yummy homemade chicken noodle soup last night, and I had some leftovers for lunch. The baked oatmeal this morning didn't set so well. And I certainly didn't balance it very well! :p

Tomorrow is grocery day, but it's another "tight" one, so I'll just see what we can do!

[Callicrowe]

Tonight I sauteed onion and mushrooms in coconut oil, added slices of zucchini, and finally threw in some fresh spinach. When it was all cooked I added pasta sauce. I spooned this over about 1 oz. (half portion) of Ezekiel pasta. I also had a slice of sprout bread (7 carbs, 5 grams of protein per slice) with coconut oil. So, was this a balanced meal ala Schwarzbein? (I'm still hungry, though, and might eat a few almonds on the way to church).

[BlessedMama]

Peggy, you would need about 3 oz. of protein with your meal. There are 4 g of protein in an ounce, so you're a bit short. :p It does sound yummy, though! ;)

Maybe some cottage cheese with it? Or a bit of meat?

[Clarity]

OH MY ... What an interesting THREAD !
I just READ it all and oufff.. thankgoodness I had my dinner just before because I would be so hungry !!

I've done in the past food combining and it can be a real meli-melo at the beginning because we are so use to have our meat with potatoes that eating rice with beans -- proteins with veggies ... but then never mix protein (but nuts or beans) with carbs AND fruits... it can become a big frustration.

I think, what works for you is what's best.. like T-Tapp workouts. The best one is the one that works for you.
In the Diet /Nutrition area, they have put on the market sooooo many (and still) that is confusing.

One will say this, the other one will say the opposite. Where to go, what to eat? !!!
And with the chemicals, wheat / gluten and OMG everywhere it's even more confusing.

Too much protein ask a lot of energy from the kidneys (filters) to get rid of it (because of the acidity from the meat by example) so the adrenals have the side-effect of that. Too much carbs will provoke a huge shot of insulin from the pancreas (which will get tired and might stop sending any to stabilize the blood sugar then.. the diabetes appears), the spleen (who helps to get rid of the humidity in the body (water retention - swelling) and to stop the menstruations (the spleen close the door from the bleeding period) / liver (also a filter) / kidneys (adrenals too), thyroid and so on.

Having too much of anything will provoke an imbalance one day or another in the system. Balance is everything. I think everything is good (except for people with allergies or sickness...) but with moderation and HAPPINESS when we eat it. Eating something with guilt as we think we shouldn't is the best way of getting sick, feeling the imbalance and stress -- even gaining weight or not loosing any.

Having enough protein with enough carbs and veggies is the right way of eating, always has been (IMO). The choice of our food is a priority today because of the chemicals.. processed food, etc. Having colors, different spices / herbs, different way of cooking (grilled, steamed, etc.) will give a better and more healthy appetite as our stomach will be happy so our eyes. (We eat with the eyes first, then the nose.) We have teeth (well... at least when we arrived :D ) it's important to EAT not just to drink. Eating will start the enzymes process which is what we need for our digestion.

Adrenals fatigue or burn out, thyroid deficiency (hyper or hypo, depression), spleen / pancreas problems (such as insuline tolerance, diabetes I or II, hypoglycemia (form of diabetes) ), ovarians (PMS, PCOS), Breasts problems (fibroids, cysts, cancer), etc. ALL related as they are in the Endocrinal family. We have 7 glands in that family and they are so close together that when one is weak or too high (like too much adrenaline from extreme sports) the other 6 will have side-effects on the short term and will be in the imbalance stage on the long term. All related. Never alone... That's why they say if you have PCOS you are at high risk of diabetes, adrenals fatigue, etc.

If you know someone who does hypoglycemia, make sure she/he checks all the endrocrinal (or hormonal) system because other symptoms will show up for sure (PMS, PCOS, fibroids, cysts even cancer). All... related.

So.. when we change our way of eating many details are in the pot. We don't just "clean" the adrenals, we help ALL the hormones. But if we change our way of eating but it brings stress at every meal because we don't know how to eat anymore and what to cook -- then it's better to go baby steps. Many doctors say it... stress is the #1 cause of hormone imbalances and problem to lose the weight.

With all of what I've read so far in this thread (#125...!) I see why SP is a great program. Sensible way of eating and having the hormones back on track.


(ooooo I'm sure it's a LOOOOONG post. Sorry. Has been a while since I wrote a long one :) )

Going to Amazon for the SP Transition :)

[thepurplepoodle]

Okay...my first Dr. S dinner was as follows...a skinless chicken thigh with a home made garlic, ginger, tamari sauce, served on a bed of quinoa pilaf (about 3/4 C), mixed veggies with a dab of butter, and a large salad of dark, leafy greens (and reds) with yellow and orange tomatoes, sunflower seeds, olive oil, red wine vinegar and seasonings. Completely filled my plate and seemed like an awful lot of food. But it was yummy. I'm not sure how it fits into the program since I'm still not even done with my first book. But it seemed fairly balanced. I am not used to eating a side of grains, but I did the other day too. I am learning that I have to up my carb count. Also - the old me would have had two pieces of chicken (and no grains.) So, this is reversed (and probably more balanced for me.)

Time to go read some more!

[BlessedMama]

Hey Wendy, that sounds pretty good to me!

My dd made a SB recipe tonight--Pecan Chicken (p. 248 in the cookbook). It was good, but I think it needs either marinated in the lime juice/mustard mixture or something to bring out more flavor. Dd just used wing tips and thighs plus she oven baked it vs. frying, so she didn't pound the meat. I also had a side of homemade mashed potatoes and a decent salad to balance it out. I didn't eat a lot of anything since my tummy still seems shrunk from my sickness earlier this week.

THEN we had dessert! Not exactly SB! Well, the ice cream WAS homemade (with real vanilla beans, too!) and the brownies were gluten free, so that's a protein with a carb, right?! :rolleyes:

I only had a bit of that, too, as I'm sure too much sugar on my tender tummy is NOT a good idea!


{{{Johanne}}} Good to "see" you over here! Loved your input! HUGS!!!

[WendyD]

Johanna - Great post. Balance, balance, balance.

Trisch - I'm so glad you are on the mend.

I've cruised through The Program and Transitions. Interesting that you may gain weight initially while you give your body the fuel it needs and then you'll transition into fat burning. I've so been watching what I eat that at the end of the day I haven't had enough calories and then I can't sleep! She writes about that issue too. Ahhh! I'll work it out though. It's just as easy for me not to eat enough as it is for me to over eat. Sounds crazy, but it's true.

[Callicrowe]

Peggy, you would need about 3 oz. of protein with your meal. There are 4 g of protein in an ounce, so you're a bit short. :p It does sound yummy, though! ;)

Maybe some cottage cheese with it? Or a bit of meat?

On my way to church (eating my handful of almonds) I realized that I had forgotten to add sufficient protein... I usually have two or three turkey meatballs with this meal. So typical of me... if I forget something, it's usually the protein. Well, at least I had the almonds! And no wonder the meal didn't satisfy me, as it's the protein that helps me feel full.

[Clarity]

Hello to you ALL and THANKS for the WARM Welcome !!!

.. Balance.. in French, Balance is Balance but means also "scale" hahaha.. funny if you think of it. Balance (scale) in life. Yep.

BOY... your dinners sound PRETTY YUMMY. I LOVE that kind of meal. Colorful, tasteful, great for all the digestive system WHICH will help all the others. STRESS my friends.. STRESS. the further we keep this one, the better we will be.

Did you know that the nervous system is 37 miles long? !! (next time you feel nervous and a doctor asks you where you feel it in you, ask for a GOOGLE MAP! :laughing: )
So if we are good to ourself, this one will stay calm then the balance is possible for real. The nervous system is nourished by the fuel (meals and thoughts) we provide ourself.

If you feel anxious one day -- try even if you have your head is somewhere else then cooking something -- try to eat something very colorful and WARM (or to have an infusion but not raw or cold food / beverage) wait and.. "watch". Your nerves will start slowly to recover, to calm. It works. We are build on an Ocean of water and nutrients from our food... no matter it's soooo important to eat each day, few times a day variety of food !

It's so interesting.

I'm very passionate about the HUMAN BODY and psychology. We are a very interesting creature! All related.. always. It's when we start to take it piece by piece -- mind not connected to the body by example (as it happens to so many) -- that problems and symptoms show up to wake us.

HEY I EXIST ! :)

The more we learn about our body, the better we feel as we have "control" on our health even when it's not our best day because we know deep inside HOW we function, how we respond to what (chicken soup is a good example of that).


***
Wendy when you cannot sleep if you're hungry, have a bit of protein with a bit of rice or quinoa by example it will help you to go into Morphée's arms in no time. Carbs (good ones) are slow-complex sugar and they have tons of Vit. B (which is pretty good for the nighty night time). And if you take progesterone cream (bio-identical) you apply a tiny tiny bit under one foot, it will help to :sleeppillow:


GOOD TO SEE YOU too Sweet Trish !!! :cool:
Thanks for starting this thread... me who discovered the PLEASURE to cook 18 months ago, I think I will do just more now ... (did 8 hours straight last Saturday!)

[Anna Louise]

Hamburger Night at the Moose Lodge. I had a plain hamburger pattie, 2 slices of Udi's gluten-free, whole grain bread, and a half cup of homemade chimichurri sauce. Chimchurri is parsley, cilantro, oregano, olive oil, lemon juice, a little vinegar, salt and cayenne pureed in the blender. I think perhaps I needed to ring more veges with me. Next week I'll be sure to pack some carrot and celery sticks.

I work hard at Hamburger Night... now I'm hungry and craving peanut butter.

[just7]

Well, I got behind, didn't I? Thanks, Trisch, for answering my somewhat bewildering post of questions!

Clarity---you always do bring---Clarity!! :D

Gunnersmom? I would recommend eating every 2-3 hours including that combination of a good protein and complex carb (they do come in various forms, don't they?). It helps with NOT getting that shaky lowering blood sugar feeling. Been there---done that.

As soon as my time eases up a little, I am going to make reading my SB books a priority!

[Clarity]

Well Jennifer, even if I don't want... she is always with me :laughing: thanks for that wonderful compliment.

Sharing is a big part of who I am and this kind of sharing (infos) is a passion for me. If I know I want to share... if I don't know I want to know :reading:

There are sooo many things out there it's imporant to make some research but mostly what works for me is my instinct, my body's reactions. If something is too good to be true, it probably is. (the only exception so far has been T-Tapp. Still good and true!

First Year Anniversary with T-Tapp today :balloon:)

We need to learn how we (individually) function and then we can progress. It's not a one fit for all -- sadly , it would be so much easier! The more time we take to cook and be aware if something is not going too well inside (or on the skin which is usually a reaction of the food or drink (or stress issues)) the better we will be in every situation in life.

No choice, wherever I am, my body is too ! Like Clarity :thinkingabout:


Baby steps no stress, see the journey as an adventure to be more in peace with food. It's a winning situation for sure!

Wish you an amazing full of good fuel day
See you later...

[okiemama]

I've really enjoyed reading this thread. I'm trying to incorporate the SB eating. We've been eating lots more veggies including salad for dinner and sometimes lunch too. And more potatoes than usual. My biggest struggle is with breakfast. I really don't like cooking a big breakfast, so I tried the cottage cheese. I can't stand the stuff, but I tried it. This morning I added strawberries and 1/2 a banana per her recommendations, but I just couldn't do it. I ended up eating peanut butter with my carrot and celery sticks. I don't mind eggs every once in a while, but again, I have to cook them. She recommends eating soon after waking up, but it just seems hard for me to do that.

I am wondering what you all are eating for breakfast that doesn't include cereal (my old standby, it is whole-grain, lightly sweetened, but still too many carbs).

[BlessedMama]

Toni, just a thought for breakfast (I struggle with that sometimes, too!) is to eat your "morning snack" first and then fix a bigger meal, more "breakfast" later. I've done that sometimes and it works pretty well.

I have a hard time eating all I should for breakfast/morning time, anyway! Working on that one.......

[gillmings]

My teenage DS likes to cook eggs the night before, or for two days at a time, and put them in the fridge to just warm up the next morning. I always try to keep hard-boiled eggs in the fridge, too, for convenience. My kids also like to eat leftovers from dinner the night before for breakfast-- no matter WHAT it was. (I draw the line at tuna casserole, though -- I just can't stomach the smell that time of the morning! LOL) Even smoothies can be made the night before.

[BlessedMama]

LOL Moyne!

Hey, the hardboiled eggs is an idea! I don't mind eggs, but sometimes....I'm just not ready for them scrambled or in an omelet! I can sometimes eat that better later in the day than morning! But I really like hardboiled eggs....might be an idea!

And yes, I've been known to have supper for breakfast! :D

Oh, Toni, I happened to think of oatmeal---adding in nuts, fruit, coconut oil....of course Dr. S. wants you to have veggies with that! ;) And probably more protein, too. In her menu plan she usually has you eating nitrate free sausage or eggs (hardboiled even! ;) ) with the oatmeal. 1 menu even had a grilled chicken breast with the oatmeal!

Other ideas (from some of her menu plans):

mozzarella cheese and spinach in 2 small corn tortillas with tomatoes

2 TBS organic almond butter on 1 small apple, carrot sticks , muenster cheese

mozzarella cheese on 1 slice whole grain toast, cherry tomatoes (hey, I could do that one!)

Deviled eggs (now that I can eat!) with sliced tomatoes and 1 apple

Open faced lean turkey sandwich on 1 slice whole-grain bread with goat or mozzarella cheese, tomato and onion

There's some ideas for a yummy breakfast that's not always eggs!

HTH!

[okiemama]

Thanks for all the help! I like the idea about eating a snack first, then eating more later. I think I'll try that. My kids won't eat first thing either. They like to have either milk or juice. Then, later in the morning they are ready to eat.

I've actually made "sausage" out of ground turkey. Here is the recipe if anybody is interested:

1 lb. ground turkey
1/2 tsp. nutmeg
1/2 tsp. sage
1/2 tsp. thyme
1/8 tsp. cayenne pepper
1 tsp. salt
Mix together and shape into 12 small patties. Fry in ungreased skillet or bake at 350 for 20-30 minutes until cooked through.

The recipe is from Sue Gregg's Breakfasts cookbook. It had a nice flavor, but I think it may need more of the seasonings. Turkey is kind of bland.

As for eating veggies with breakfast, I ate a whole carrot and a whole celery stick this morning with peanut butter. It was great and it lasted for a long time. That might be a great "snack" to start my day with.

[ayj67]

Trisch, I used to make this egg quiche/muffin type of casserole with veges in them in a muffin tin. Kind of like a mini egg casserole in a little portion handy size. After they are cook, I bag a few in sandwich bags and freezer bags. Since I cook and make, I know the grams of protein, fiber, etc. Heating up takes 10-15 seconds. Quite easy for little beginer cooks to make too.

Trader Joe's own brand deli meat has not nitrite.

You food plan looks like mine regular menu.

[Callicrowe]

I had what I think was a balanced snack this afternoon. I made egg salad, adding celery, onion and shredded carrots, and had it on a piece of sprout bread with alfalfa sprouts. Was that balanced according to DS?

[gunnersmom]

Hello, ladies! Sorry I haven't been in here for a while. I've been eating closely to TSP, but I am still stumbling with the carbs thing, protein is so easy!

AYJ: How about posting the recipe for those quiche muffins? Eggs, milk, cheese, cooked veggies? You sound like my mom. We've teased her for years that she was on Atkins before Atkins!

Peggy, from my not so great understanding, I think that your egg salad was good. If it had mayo, I think that counts as the carb. But I will know more in a few days, after I finish the book and make my note cards.

We are having Wedding Soup for dinner tonight. I've spent the better part of the day making it, a little here, a little there. If you don't know what Wedding Soup is... I used home made chicken stock as the base, you add small cuts of carrot, celery, onion, add meatballs the size of a dime, then fresh or frozen (thawed) spinach, small pieces of cut up chicken, small pasta if desired, and combine eggs with parmesan cheese and add to the boiling soup slowly to make it look like Egg Drop Soup.

Its very tasty and filling. Probably low on carbs, but it definitely has the protein and veggies, and the home made stock adds a lot of vitamins and minerals. I'm going to use that little dot looking pasta to add a few more carbs.

Question: Does anyone know how chia seeds would be added into this plan?

When I've finally finished the book, I will be posting my meal plans, I promise.

[gunnersmom]

So much talk of food, I've forgotten to add my thoughts and progress with the body.

I don't know how much of this is the plan, and how much is t-tapp, but my feet and ankles are not swelling all day long, now. I started noticing a difference several months ago when I was participating in Renew U. I found that there were days when I would finally crawl into bed and my feet weren't totally swollen. But there were still days, usually when I worked and sat all day that they were.

In the past couple weeks, I've noticed that the only swelling I have now is a wee bit on my actual ankle bone. My feet are as slim and pretty at night as they are when I get up in the morning. And my feet used to be swollen ALL the time, even when I got up.

So, t-tapp definitely helped do a way with the swelling while I slept and at least six months ago I started noticing the shape of my foot was changing and I had a "definite" muscle developing on the inside length of each foot. Now, my feet are thin, nicely shaped and muscular looking in the morning and are looking the same at night.

This is a big deal for me. My thoughts are, if T-tapp and this WOE can help my feet and all that inflammation, then maybe oh maybe my knees may be next! I can only pray.

[ayj67]

Gunnersmom, I don't have receipe. I read receipes for quiche online and rig it to the healthier ingredients I have at home, sans crust. Sometimes I use real eggs, sometimes I use egg subsitutes (egg white and food coloring). Sometimes I add cheese on the top, sometimes not. Cooked spinach and leek or green onion, or diced mixed color pepper are my usual ingredients, drained salsa can also be good.

Peggy, what kind of glue do you add in your egg salad? I normally add plain yogurt instead of mayo. I might add a few dashes of curry power. Sometimes I use deli mustard. If I use the egg salad as a lunch time, I add a canned wild Alsakan salmon (you can get it real cheap at Costco, or watch for the big canned Bumble Bee on sale at Walgreen). If I have green onion, I might at green onion. When using the French yellow mustard, I add chopped pickles.

The other day, I have some wasabi mayo on hand, I added it to the canned salmon, add some left over brown rice, and roll it in Nori paper and cut in little rolls, I made sushi for lunch.

[ayj67]

I lost around 50+ lbs 6 years ago eating South Beach and Perricone, quite similar to what you guys are doing. GM superfood, pretty much, with a balance nutrition profile for each meals and snacks. Good protien and good fat to balance each carbohydrates intake (even good carbs).

[Callicrowe]

Aurora,

I use Hain Safflower mayonnaise. Never thought of salmon. That would boost the protein even more.

[ayj67]

I add the salmon for protein and for the Omega 3 oil in the brine water too, so don't add salt. Safflower, canola, vegetable oils are higher in Omega 6, excess Omega 6 over Omega 3 is inflammatory. If you want a blender receipe for homemade mayo, I can dish it out tonight and post it, my bosch mixer blender came with a receipe. You can use EVOO (not sure about virgin coconut oil).

Walnut oil has perfect Omega 3 to Omega 6 profile, but it is expense and be sure to put in the fridge. Rancid oil is bad for the artery.

[ayj67]

Okay found the book:

1 whole egg
1/3 cup of vegetable oil
2 tablespoons lemon juice or light vinegar
1 teaspoon sugar
1/2 teaspoon of dry mustard
1/2 teaspoon of salt

2/3 cup of vegetable oil to drizzle in.

Mix the first 6 ingredients (egg to salt) for a few second in Speed 1 (I guess it is. universal low speed). Then quickly pour the remaining 2/3 cup of oil in a uniformly thick stream while operating the blender at Speed 1 or Speed 4 (I do not have 4, so I will use 1) until mixture is thick and smooth (approximately 10-20 seconds). Makes 1 1/4 cups.

[okiemama]

Here is a recipe I came across today http://www.foodrenegade.com/sundried-tomato-and-sausage-egg-cupcakes/. You would need to add more carbs to balance it I think.

I have some questions about the "pharmaceutical-grade supplements." What are these? Does anyone take any supplements? If so, what kind, brand, and where do you get them?

[thepurplepoodle]

Has anyone done the GI testing on her website? I have been looking into testing for food intolerances. Hers looks interesting as it also tests for bacteria/parasites, etc. They are all (not just SB) expensive. I fall into the "having tummy trouble all the time, probably gluten, possibly dairy, and yes I'm of Irish and German descent" category.

In the mean time...I'll just keep reading!:reading:

[WendyD]

Toni - Those egg muffins look wonderful. Are you talking about women to womens vitamins that ware "pharmaceutical-grade"? Or is this from one of SP books? If you are talking about W to W, I tried theirs and didn't do well on them. I think that grade is a doctors vitamin vs. what you can buy else where. IMO - it may not be any better than what is in the heathfood store. I remember the dr. giving me fake purple prenatals that made me sick. I went to New Chapters Prenatal and did great. Right now I'm taking New Chapter Organics Women's multi. I'm doing pretty well on those. Iherb.com has them on sale cheap right now. Usually they cost a pretty penny.

[BlessedMama]

Wendy (purplepoodle Wendy!), I also take just a good supplement. I actually take one meant for pregnant mamas, because I figured as long as I'm of childbearing age (even if I am on this end of it!), I need those nutrients! :laughing:

The one I take is Special Two from NOW brands. It is the same as Beeyoutiful's SuperMom. I liked SuperMoms, but just couldn't afford the price. Special Two does the same! I actually have my dds on it, even though none of them are married, just because it has a lot of good stuff for women in it.

I wouldn't necessarily agree with the pharmaceutical grade vitamins, but that's jmho!

I've not done her testing--I did notice, though, that they seem to be pretty comprehensive! I figure we all have parasites and probably most of us don't tolerate gluten well! Just going gf for the first few months of doing SB can be beneficial, then maybe rotate so you're not constantly getting higher gluten grains. (Unless, of course, you are celiac or severely gluten intolerant!). My dd basically has leaky gut, so she has been gf for almost a year. She read it can take a year and a half or more to heal. She needs to be better about her acidophilus and yogurt, though! We found a coconut milk yogurt with the good bacteria in it (bulgaricus is especially good). She can use that until our goats start kidding and bringing in more milk for her to make her own!

Breakfast today was horrible! Box cereal (albeit gf and somewhat "healthy"!) This was one of those "I don't want to eat anything" days, and I should have eaten some eggs or something high protein. I forgot we bought cottage cheese yesterday, or I would have done that! :behave:

Lunch was the rest of the homemade chicken noodle soup. I had Townhouse crackers with cream cheese on them. Probably a little high in the carb department as there were noodles in the soup, too. Not enough veggies, either.

Supper was better--a bacon (turkey) and bean mixture over homemade whole-grain cornbread. Dd also made a cauliflower/carrot dish that was good--just those two cooked together. She was going to do cauliflower/broccoli salad, but the broccoli was bad. I didn't mind the cauli/carrot blend!

My oldest dd is off helping a df of mine this week and getting to do a lot of fun things, so my other dds are trying to "make her jealous" (in a fun way!) by making all these yummy desserts--every single night! :help: Tonight was a homemade version of Starbucks Peppermint Mocha Ice Cream! :licklips:

So my supper was good until.... LOL!

I'll have to check out that recipe, Toni! And maybe hardboil some eggs tomorrow!

[ayj67]

Here is a recipe I came across today http://www.foodrenegade.com/sundried-tomato-and-sausage-egg-cupcakes/. You would need to add more carbs to balance it I think.



Yup, looks like them. I fluff the egg in the blender, easier to clean than the mixer and the bowls, and I can pour the eggs in the muffin tin and add in the other ingredient into the muffin tin. I less ladle to wash too.

[okiemama]

I was wondering about what supplements you all use because I know that it is hard to get all our nutrients from our food. The supplements she recommends on her website are so expensive! I've been taking a vit. D from Wal-mart and a fish oil from Sam's. My in-laws doctor recommended that particular type.

Anyway, I went to a health food store yesterday and looked over their supplements. Talk about confusing! I didn't get anything. I looked at Garden of Life's supplements. I like that they are raw and made from food, so wouldn't the body absorb the nutrients easier? The drawback from those is the price. Also, there isn't much calcium or magnesium in them.

When we went to Wal-mart, I found a multi called Alive! There is one for men and one for women. The price was very doable. It includes some fruits and vegetables and resveratrol (the special thing in red wine that is very anti-aging). I bought it thinking that even if I didn't absorb all the nutrients, it would help until I find something else.

I also take Natural Calm without the calcium. It is ok as far as getting the nutrients, but it is starting to be too sweet to me.

Oh, and as a side note, hubby and I went out to eat at Texas Roadhouse yesterday. They have these delicious homemade rolls with honey butter. I didn't have even one! I didn't want it. I did have a salad (gave the croutons to hubby), shared a fried onion blossom, steak and sweet potato. So except for the fried onion, it was fairly balanced. I was definately full and didn't miss the bread. Baby steps!

We stayed at Embassy Suites hotel. They have a great breakfast. I had an omelet with spinach, onions, mushrooms, and cheese; sausage; fried potatoes; melon and milk.

Lunch was a grapefruit, a mozzarella cheesestick, a celery stalk with peanut butter, and a few bites of a sourdough pretzel (white flour carbs are not tasting so good anymore).

Dinner tonight will be oatmeal with almonds and blueberries and probably a carrot stick.

[ayj67]

Resisting Texas Roadhouse's butter sweet roll? Wow, my hat's off to you. I would just do 5 HD for each rolls.

[BlessedMama]

Me, too! WOW! When dh and I go out to Texas Roadhouse, I sometimes eat TWO--but one is my "dessert"! ;) And then I do either a HD or Butterflies in the Ladies' room! :laughing:

You deserve a medal!

A note on WM supplements....well, let's say you get what you pay for. I can't vouch for that brand, but there are some that you would have to take half the bottle to get the actual supplement and get your body to use it.

I'd really check out http://www.thecatalog.com They have NOW and other brand supplements very reasonable. I know what you mean about the cost, but I try to get something reputable without totally breaking the budget!

The main thing is that your body is actually able to utilize them. And that may be different for different people on some things. I used to use a great prenatal vitamin by Rainbow Light, then our co-op quit carrying them. I later found the SuperMoms and loved them, but the price is high. When I read that NOW has the same exact thing in Special Two, I went with that. I'm not against supporting smaller companies like Beeyoutiful, but many of their supplements are pricier and basically the same as the NOW Brand. I'll buy the things you can't get other places from them, but it makes the difference between getting all the supplements I need or just a few!

VitaCost has good prices, too, and there's another one that escapes me right now. Garden of Life is a great brand, but yeah, it is pricey, too! TheCatlog.com has some of their things, but not as much of a discount. You do get quality with theirs, though!

Eating yesterday wasn't so good--seems like I pieced too much!

Today I had cottage cheese with peaches for breakfast, ate fairly well at our church carry-in (had some pasta but no breads!, salad, orange slices, chicken, 1/2 a small meatloaf and yes, two desserts!). Tonight is usually just popcorn or whatever. I'll try to make good choices! ;)

[okiemama]

You know, I really didn't want a roll. I actually had one of those inner conversations with myself and asked if I thought I would enjoy it. My feeling was no, so I didn't waste the empty calories or stomach space. This is a real breakthrough for me. Usually I would have two of them with a whole container of that butter.

I've read that most supplements from Wal-mart and drugstores have synthetic vitamins that are difficult for our bodies to use. I really think a whole food supplement would be the best thing to take and I will probably try the Garden of Life. I can get a good deal on the RAW One Woman's at vitacost. I got the Alive brand since I saw the same ones at the health food store. It still has synthetic vitamins, but it includes whole food as well. I figured it would be a start at least while I continue my research.

Oh, another breakthrough for me. Usually when I eat oatmeal I have to add lots of sugar or honey to make it taste good. Tonight I only added frozen blueberries and walnuts. I actually liked it! I ate that with some raw veggies and a nitrate-free hot dog for protein. Kind of a weird combo, but it filled me up.

I've stopped buying snack foods that aren't allowed, so we are eating up what we have, then replacing it with healthier options like fruit and veggies, nuts, and cheese sticks.

[BlessedMama]

Great job, Toni! I'm proud of you! HUGS!

You're right--it's a step in the right direction on the supplements!

[eshlemania]

Finallly, got all the way though this thread. I have the book Principles and am starting to read that. I want to get the cookbook. I have heard good things about it. And it is to be low carb with carb counts listed which will help diabetic dh.

So, yes, I think I am going to do this. I tried an antifungal diet and it wasn't too bad, but I ended up eating a LOT of eggs, cause I didn't have the stuff I needed to cook for me and dh. This seems more reasonable. Can't wait to get some more reading done.

[eshlemania]

Ok, I looked at my book and it's the Program. :D Just ordered the cookbook.

[BlessedMama]

Good to "see" you here, Bev! I feel badly--didn't mean to abandon the thread! Just a little..um...focused shall we say?! I have 2 essays and uploading all my stuff for the ISSA test, then hopefully I can be back to "studying" my Schwarzbein!

I really, really like it! I was doing an essay on 3 fat-loss programs, and I didn't do SB, but I did look up some "naysayer" stuff about it and had to LOL!

The biggest "downsides" according to one website was:

1. You have to have a dr. to do it (because of the HRT--hello, if you need HRT, you'll need a dr. whether you do SB or not!)
2. It is inconvenient for eating out (isn't every diet or WOE "inconvenient" for fast food?!)
3. It is hard to stick to because it is so strict (according to three big fat-loss programs I looked into, SB is a party! I found it much EASIER to stick to!)
4. You have to do her expensive GI testing (No, you don't)
5. It can be difficult if you have a family because not everyone will want to eat this way (again, what diet IS easy?! And quite frankly, this would be MUCH more conducive to a whole family eating vs. buying special "diet food"!)

It is considered safe and healthy, although yes, the weight loss will be slower. Not good for impatient grasshoppers! But for overall health in the long run...very good!

And Bev, she started out her practice working with Type II diabetics, so they were her guinea pigs in the early years--and they got better! So that should tell us something! And she has had something like 3000 patients or more in the past 20 years who have improved their metabolism and feel better so I would say the proof is in the pudding! er....cottage cheese! ;)

[Callicrowe]

I was all set this morning to change up my breakfast from my usual smoothie to a meal of an egg over easy, sprout bread toast with coconut oil, one Applegate Farms chicken sausage link, some zucchini lightly sauteed in coconut oil, and a small orange. So what did I have? A smoothie. :laughing:

I went out to Bob Evans with a friend for dinner and had salmon, a baked potato with a bit of real butter, and baby carrots. No bread, as the choices weren't good at all, and no dessert. I almost had a side salad, but I had a large salad for lunch so wasn't in the mood. I think that was pretty balanced, but I still don't know all I need to know about the Schwarzbein WOE.

[BlessedMama]

Sounds good to me, Peggy! :licklips:

[Clarity]

[QUOTE=Callicrowe;794066]I was all set this morning to change up my breakfast from my usual smoothie to a meal of an egg over easy, sprout bread toast with coconut oil, one Applegate Farms chicken sausage link, some zucchini lightly sauteed in coconut oil, and a small orange. So what did I have? A smoothie. :laughing:


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH....... you're so funny !!!

[OzFriend]

This is my first day eating fully Schwarzbein and my first thoughts? There's so much food! I decided that to start I'll have the meals exactly as described in her meal plan and I'm so full. So far I've only had two meals, breakfast and lunch, but I can tell there's no way I'll be going hungry eating this way.

[BlessedMama]

Isn't that wonderful, Sonia?! We are so programmed to think we have to eat less, and yet, if we eat good, quality food, we're actually satisfied and rebuilding our health!

In all my research for doing the case studies for my ISSA test, I usually defaulted a lot to bodybuilding.com and the ISSA online magazine. It was interesting how both promoted a way of eating that really was a lot like SB. These people know if they want to build muscle, they have to feed their bodies well! And you sure can't call them fat!

Of course, they are killing themselves to work out and develop that muscle...but it stands to reason that if you are going to rehape your body through T-Tapp and build good muscle density (not the overdone muscles bodybuilders have!) AND still build up your body's health, you are going to have to fuel that body well!

You can't run a race with a gas tank full of water or half full trying to "conserve"!

I'm hoping to get back to SB this next week. Between staying up too late working on my test essays and then sick me and kids this past week and weekend, it's been survival mode! LOL!

HUGS!

[OzFriend]

I have had 4 SB meals today and they were great. I feel satisfied and since I added lots of non-starchy veges I feel like I've been what is traditionally considered "good". Because my children are only little and they eat whatever I give them as does hubby I think it won't be hard to continue eating like this, if I had to cook separate meals I don't think I could keep it up but cooking the same for every one won't be hard.

[gunnersmom]

I, too, apologize for staying away from this thread. I've had a family in crisis for the past week, the crisis is over as far as I know and we are mending now.

I have done my level best to follow SP last week. Some days were very difficult and I do admit to falling off the wagon and having a Turtle Pecan Blizzard - SMALL as my only "bad" eating frenzy. What I haven't managed to do is get in the snacks, but there have been several times that I've simply eaten a few teaspoons full of Natural Peanut butter which appears to be protein and carbs so I think its probably okay. Too late and too bad if it wasn't!

I lost 10 lbs that first week and haven't weighed myself since, but I have loaded up on acorn squash, butternut squash and good green fresh veggies for the week.

I haven't looked at the label yet, but I buy these little frozen squares of hash browns and have found it a nice carb to add to eggs in the morning.

I also have a wonderfully easy NO CARB hamburger bun recipe if anyone is interested. Its nice to be able to eat a sandwich once in a while and these fill the need for me.

I also have a great recipe for garlicky Italian greens using escarole, if anyone wants. I a big fan of garlic.

I roasted two nice chickens yesterday to have meat for lunches and dinner last night and tonight. I have the bones in the freezer and will be making a stock at home tomorrow if the weather is what they are saying it will be. There is no mention of stock in the diet plan that I can see, so I'm counting it as FREE!

I found I really like a baked potato with cottage cheese on it. I found that a weird idea, but so easy to do, I couldn't resist. I topped it off with broccoli and a bit of butter and it was quite filling. Another good lunch.

Peggy, I think your lunch out was wonderful.

Is it my imagination or does food taste a little better this way?

[BlessedMama]

Oohhhh! The potato with cottage cheese, broccoli and butter sounds yummy! :licklips: I'll have to keep that in mind when the dc fix homemade mac and cheese for their lunch!

I think it does taste better! Probably because we're not so stressed! LOL! Plus, with good fats allowed, it just tastes better, I think.

Dd had made some bean soup last week (black bean) as well as chicken rice (homemade), so I'll have to decide! Probably will go with chicken rice as my throat is better, but the spicy bean soup might be a bit...uncomfortable! ;)

[gunnersmom]

I have a feeling there is some chicken and rice soup in my future as well!

[OzFriend]

If you buy low-fat food at the supermarket it is usually full of sugar and salt as otherwise it would be bland and tasteless. That is why, I think, when we use good fats in our foods we don't need all the extra salt and sugar and can learn to cut down on them, the food tastes good on its own without the need of extra help.

[okiemama]

Last week was pretty good for me. The weekends are harder, though. I get lazy and don't want to cook! So, Saturday for breakfast I had whole grain cereal. I had a McDonald's salad for lunch and a mini Reese's PB blizzard after we went shopping. For dinner, it was a sandwich. Same for lunch on Sunday. So, today I'm back at it again. I've noticed that sweets are becoming too sweet for me. I'm still reading the book and learning more and more every day.

[eshlemania]

Ok, I'm not through the book yet, but I have some questions. How do you deal with the idea of not eating the same thing, but rotating out every third day? I am sure I read that, so eating an item every third day. We don't have the money to do that. Also, when she says to eat balanced do you match the carbs and protein counts? I am going to have to read this book again.

I got the cookbook and it looks very good. I'm going to try something tonight.

[BlessedMama]

Bev, I have to admit I'm not into it perfectly. If my adrenals were totally shot or I was having worse issues, I would be more strict. Right now, with everyone sick, we're doing good to eat, period!!!

I think if you have issues with some foods, I'd be careful to only eat them every few days. I need to get back into reading mine, too--I had a good start, but then started focusing 100% on my ISSA studies--1 more essay and I need to just get it started. Then it will be done! ;)

The idea of balance is to eat protein, good carbs, and good fats (and non-starchy veggies). For snacks I notice she has 15 and 20 g carb count snacks along with protein. I know somewhere, in one of the books, she gives a little more info, but I look over her ideas for menus and snacks and kind of guestimate with that.

I thought about going off dairy for 10 days, but so much of my extra protein and snacks are dairy! Yogurt, string cheese, cottage cheese.....for now maybe I'll just focus on eating balanced again since I've gotten off-base since sickness hit. I can always cut the dairy out later! Wish I had bought more of the coconut milk yogurt I got for dd!

[OzFriend]

I don't worry about rotating foods, there's a few things that my children love (like carrots) that I'm happy for us all to eat every day. I know there's people out there who have a lot of intolerances and allergies, including to many different fruit and veggies, but we don't so I'm not too worried about that. Another thing is we eat seasonally, right now it's time for stone fruits and berries so we are eating them, same with veggies, we just roll with the seasons.

Having said that, after the floods from a few weeks ago that wiped out a lot the veggie growing areas now we're faced with a cyclone that's wiped out the fruit areas. Soon it's going to be too expensive to eat anything at all. They're predicting that the price of vegetables will rise by 50% and some fruit by as much as 100%. I think we might have to become Breatharians and live on air.

[HealthyMum]

LOL! Love it Sonia, It would definitely be cheaper wouldn't it!!

[eshlemania]

Thanks, that clears things up a bit. Gonna read some more and see. :D

[thepurplepoodle]

I've been away from the forums for the last 10 days or so...boy do I have some catching up to do! I was considering the SB GI testing. I know that it is not necessary - yet I seem to be having so many food issues that I want to do a test for my own peace of mind - as well as to have some "proof" so that my family (and extended family) doesn't think that I'm just whiny or wimpy. I know that I shouldn't need to do it, but this is just where I am right now.

Their website said I needed test D, but I simply can't afford that. So I contacted them requesting Test B which was about half the price. Same test, less detailed results. Anyway, here is the response that I received from them...

"Dear Wendy,


We are in the process of updating our website. I am sorry to say that we will no longer be offering the GI package B. At this time we are only offering GI Package D. The price on the current website has not been updated either. The price for GI Package D has increased by $100. The reason for the increase is that you will be talking directly to Dr. Schwarzbein about your results and will have a one hour phone consult with Dr. Schwarzbein and a one hour phone consult with her nutritionist.



Sincerely,




Bonnie

The Schwarzbein Principle

www.schwarzbeinprinciple.com" (http://www.schwarzbeinprinciple.com/)

Needless to say, this certainly isn't an option. I just thought that I'd pass the info along incase anyone else was looking into the GI tests.

Now...off to keep reading for a few minutes before the little 8 month old that I'm watching wakes up and sends me off and running! :o)

[BlessedMama]

Wendy, I'm sorry about that! At least if you could do it, you'd get the 2-1 hour consultations. *sigh*

I'm sure it could be beneficial....maybe use your tax refund?

[thepurplepoodle]

Trisch - I have ordered just a very basic test for the major "triggers" of gluten, eggs, dairy, and soy. It's a home test that I will take and mail back on Monday. We'll see what those results are and go from there. If I can know where I stand with the "big 4" then I'll be able to start working on some of the smaller things. One step at a time, right? It is all a learning process that I know will take time. I'm in for the long haul.

[eshlemania]

Ok, I am trying to determine my protein intake and I am not quite sure what my exercise should be labeled as. I do LB BWO+ 4-5 mornings a week. But I also clean houses and offices and churches 6 days a week, and after supper one night a week. So, I think I am somewhere between Moderately Active and Very active. Not sure how to do this. I do not consider cleaning to be cardio or stressful. It's more of a moderate thing, but it is pretty constant.

Thank you!

[thepurplepoodle]

Bev - you sound very active to me.

I did my food intolerance test today. Should have results in about 10 days. Only tested for the 4 biggies (gluten, dairy, eggs, and soy.) Now that I have completed the test I can be gluten free again. I will also be trying to eliminate most dairy. We'll see how it goes. I've been reading SB and was starting to feel a little overwhelmed. Was trying to decide if this was what I should be doing. I was pretty sure the answer was yes, but it was something I was thinking about. Anyway, I've been getting the books from the library and have been wishing that I could keep one so that I can refer to it. I've already purchased the cookbook (free with a gift card.) Well, low and behold, I went to a book sale and don't ya just know that they had the one SB book that I hadn't read yet - and only for 50 cents - and in great condition! I was excited...and encouraged. I saw it as an indication to move forward with the SB program. So, yesterday I made my family menu plan, balanced SB style, for the week and am off and running.

I must say that my breakfast was much bigger than I am used to. Then I had a mid-morning snack (even though I wasn't hungry - just following orders - LOL!) I know that I will never be hungry this way (not that I was before as I have been eating in a similar style - but not quite as balanced.)

We'll see how the next few days play out. Hope everyone is doing well!

[Gina Giannattasio]

I'm a little late jumping on this thread, but here I am! I've been thumbing through the books at the bookstore (they're not in the library here), and I'm going to buy them as soon as I have the $$.

Thanks for sharing, Trisch!

[BlessedMama]

Good to see you, Gina!

Wendy, that is WONDERFUL about finding the book for .50!!! Wow!

I know it can seem daunting at first--still is sometimes for me! I like to think of it as someone said, "It's the direction you're headed" and also "It's what you do 95% of the time". I realize there is a time to be "strict", but when you're just learning and not having life and death issues....well, just do what you can!

I blew it this morning. I decided to eat some yogurt with nuts within half an hour of getting up, then after I exercised an hour or so later, I would eat "breakfast".

The "breakfast" didn't happen. :( Just got out of kilter with my new routine, dh was home with a sore back (not that he threw my routine off, but I always ditch my "schedule" when he's home!)...oh, well!

I was going to focus on getting a good SB breakfast and morning snack (even if I reversed them!) in this week. Then next week I was going to tackle lunches. This is only day 1, so I'm not giving up! LOL!

And if it takes me 2 weeks to get breakfast/morning snack down, fine. I also am trying to make good choices at suppertime (I'm at the mercy of my dds who cook--although they cook healthy things. Just skimpy on the veggies sometimes! ;) )


Bev, I would agree with Wendy--no, cleaning houses might not "compare" to running for an hour, but you are still doing short bursts by going up and down steps, running a vacuum, not to mention reaching to clean this or that. You are still active vs. sitting at a computer writing essays all day! :rolleyes:

Actually I'm on "break" from my reading for mentoring! ;)

We'll get there girls! 1 baby step at a time! HUGS!

[thepurplepoodle]

Trisch - It's my "Day 1" as well. I've been dabbling...But this is where I try to put it all together. And like you...I plan on really focusing on Breakfast and Morning snack. I am hoping to have every meal and snack done right...but I am going to cut my self some slack if need be. As I said, we'll see how the week goes. I can say that after having a good b-fast, snack, and lunch - I can't even imagine eating again today - let alone two more times (snack and dinner.)

This morning I had 2 eggs scrambled with spinach, and 2/3 C oatmeal with butter and vanilla coconut milk (and coffee - that's going to be a bad habit I will be continuing for a while. It doesn't help that I received a Keurig for Christmas!) :licklips: Snack was liver pate on a few GF crackers. Lunch was split pea soup from the SB cookbook with a few more GF crackers. I've been drinking all day as well (coffee this morning, then water) and that is also contributing to how full I am.

And, you are right about it "being the direction that we are headed." Every step forward is just that...FORWARD! I still have a lot of ground to cover. Don't we all? And we'll do it together!

[eshlemania]

I, myself, am moving into this very slowly. I am trying to balance proteins and carb and get in more non-starchy vegies. The thing I am really concentrating on right now, is getting my sleep more under control. I am not getting to bed past 11. And 11 is pushing it as the alarm goes off at 5:30 (gotta get in my Tapping and devotions in the morning or forget it). Most nights now that I am making an effort are between 10 & 10:30 (and sometimes before it was 11:30-12). And I am not drinking after supper. So, I am not needing to get up in the night for trips to the bathroom. I am waking 2-4 times, but I go right back to sleep. I think as I get used to not getting up, I will wake up less often.

Thank you for the imput on my exercise. I will go for the very active protein amount and start adding in mini relaxations and occasional small down times to relax and reboot.

[gunnersmom]

I think I've been doing well with TSP except I haven't taken the time to explore much in the way of diversity. I've had a tough couple weeks, family wise, and have counted myself lucky to just do what I've been doing. The snacks are a problem for me, but I really liked the idea I read somewhere about just eating a few almonds. I've been doing that in the morning as I make hubby's lunch and breakfast and it takes me about an hour longer to get hungry for breakfast in the morning. The problem I have then is that I really could just skip lunch. I don't, but do eat a small one and am then ready for a nice dinner. The afternoon snack has not become a reality, however.

[OzFriend]

I've just been reading TSP II: The Transition and I have to say it's the best book. She really gives so much information and details but not in an overwhelming way. She's vey good at reminding us that this is a lifestyle change and that it takes time. She also says to make the changes slowly because if you try to make too many at once you might end up failing. I find it very encouraging that she is so understanding about how hard it can be but the more I read the more convinced I am this is the right thing for me to do.

BTW I failed completely today :o I made pizza for dinner.

[gunnersmom]

Sonia, protein, fat, and a carb! Plus whatever veggies you added. Could be worse! You could have eaten cookies for dinner!

[okiemama]

This week I'm starting to eat the breakfast I fix my husband: oatmeal with blueberries, walnuts and cinnamon. I also add a cheese stick for added protein. I don't really like eating so early in the morning, but since I'm already fixing that I might as well.

One thing I noticed on her sample menus is salad for lunch and dinner. I've been doing that most days, but I just get tired of the same thing every day. So, I went through all my cookbooks and found different salads and dressings. Some of them I've tried. I thought I would post them here for everyone.

Spinach salad w/ honey-bacon dressing from Home-Style Soups, Salads and Sandwiches
8 cups torn fresh spinach
1 cup sliced fresh mushrooms
1/4 cup sliced green onions
1 medium tomato, chopped
5 bacon strips, cooked and crumbled
1 hard-cooked egg, chopped
1 cup shredded Parmesan cheese
Honey-Bacon Dressing:
2 bacon strips, cooked and crumbled
1/2 cup honey
1/2 cup vinegar
1/3 cup vegetable oil
1 teaspoon yellow or spicy brown mustard
1 teaspoon lemon juice
Combine the first seven ingredients in a large bowl. In a small bowl, whisk together dressing ingredients; pour over salad. Serve immediately. Yield: 8-10 servings.

Dijon Vinaigrette from Home-Style Soups, Salads and Sandwiches
2/3 cup olive or vegetable oil
1/3 cup red wine vinegar
2 tablespoons Dijon mustard
1/2 teaspoon salt
1/4 teaspoon pepper
1/4 teaspoon sugar
Combine all ingredients in a jar with a tight-fitting lid; shake until blended. Store in the refrigerator. Yield: about 1 cup.

Mixed Greens w/ Mushrooms from Home-Style Soups, Salads and Sandwiches
6 cups mixed salad greens
1 cup halved cherry tomatoes
1/2 pound fresh mushrooms, sliced
Dressing:
1 tablespoon red wine vinegar
1 tablespoon lemon juice
1 tablespoon thinly sliced green onion
1 tablespoon Dijon mustard
1 tablespoon minced fresh parsley
1/4 teaspoon salt, optional
1/4 teaspoon sugar
1/8 teaspoon dried tarragon
Dash pepper
Toss greens, tomatoes and mushrooms in a large bowl. In a small bowl, whisk together dressing ingredients; pour over salad and serve immediately. Yield: 8 servings.

Blue Cheese-Bacon Dressing from Home-Style Soups, Salads and Sandwiches
1 cup mayonnaise
3/4 to 1 cup (3 to 4 ounces) crumbled blue cheese
6 bacon strips, cooked and crumbled
1 tablespoon lemon juice
1 tablespoon white wine vinegar
2 teaspoons sugar
1-1/2 teaspoons Worcestershire sauce
1/4 teaspoon seasoned salt
1/8 teaspoon pepper
In a small bowl, combine all ingredients; mix well to blend. Cover and chill for at least 3 hours. Store in the refrigerator. Yield: 1-1/4 cups.

Low-Fat Ranch Dressing from Home-Style Soups, Salads and Sandwiches
1 cup mayonnaise
1 tablespoon dried parsley flakes
1 tablespoon dried minced onion
1/4 to 1/2 teaspoon salt, optional
1/8 teaspoon garlic powder
3/4 cup buttermilk
In a small bowl, combine the first five ingredients. Stir in buttermilk. cover and chill for at least 8 hours before serving. Store any leftovers in the refrigerator. Yield: 1-1/4 cups.

Mandarin Salad from Betty Crocker's New Cookbook
1/4 cup sliced almonds
1 tablespoon plus 1 teaspoon sugar
Sweet-Sour Dressing (below)
1/2 small head lettuce, torn into bite-size pieces (3 cups)
1/2 bunch romaine, torn into bite-size pieces (3 cups)
2 medium stalks celery, chopped (1 cup)
2 tablespoons thinly sliced green onions
1 can (11 ounces) mandarin orange segments, drained
1. Cook almonds and sugar in 1-quart saucepan over low heat, stirring constantly, until sugar is melted and almonds are coated; cool and break apart.
2. Prepare Sweet-Sour Dressing.
3. Toss almonds, dressing and remaining ingredients.

Sweet-Sour Dressing
1/4 cup vegetable oil
2 tablespoons sugar
2 tablespoons white vinegar
1 tablespoon chopped fresh parsley
1/2 teaspoon salt
Dash of pepper
dash of red pepper sauce
Shake all ingredients in tightly covered container. Refrigerate until serving.

Greek Salad from Betty Crocker's New Cookbook
Lemon Dressing (below)
7 ounces spinach, torn into bite-size pieces (5 cups)
1 head Boston lettuce, torn into bite-size pieces (4 cups)
1/2 cup crumbled feta cheese (3 ounces)
1/4 cup sliced green onions (3 medium)
24 pitted ripe olives
3 medium tomatoes, cut into wedges
1 medium cucumber, sliced
1. Prepare Lemon Dressing.
2. Toss dressing and remaining ingredients.

Lemon Dressing
1/4 cup vegetable oil
2 tablespoons lemon juice
1/2 teaspoon sugar
1 1/2 teaspoons Dijon mustard
1/4 teaspoon salt
1/8 teaspoon pepper
Shake all ingredients in tightly covered container.

Italian Dressing from Betty Crocker's New Cookbook
1 cup olive or vegetable oil
1/4 cup white vinegar
2 tablespoons finely chopped onion
1 teaspoon sugar
1 teaspoon ground mustard (dry)
1 tablespoon chopped fresh or 1 teaspoon dried basil leaves
1/2 teaspoon salt
1/2 teaspoon dried oregano leaves
1/4 teaspoon pepper
2 cloves garlic, crushed
Shake all ingredients in tightly covered container. Shake before serving.

Classic French Dressing from Betty Crocker's New Cookbook
1 cup olive or vegetable oil
1/4 cup white vinegar
1/4 cup lemon juice
1/2 teaspoon salt
1/2 teaspoon ground mustard (dry)
1/2 teaspoon paprika
Shake all ingredients in tightly covered container. Shake before serving.

Buttermilk Dressing from Betty Crocker's New Cookbook
3/4 cup mayonnaise or salad dressing
1/2 cup buttermilk
1 teaspoon parsley flakes
1/2 teaspoon instant minced onion
1/2 teaspoon salt
Dash of freshly ground pepper
1 clove garlic, crushed
Mix all ingredients. Cover and refrigerate at least 2 hours to blend flavors. Cover and refrigerate any remaining dressing.

Sue's House Dressing from Sue Gregg's Main Dishes
Blend thoroughly with wire whisk:
1 cup plain yogurt
1/2 cup mayonnaise
1 tablespoon lemon juice
1 tablespoon fresh minced parsley or 1 teaspoon dried parsley flakes
1/2 teaspoon onion powder
1/4 teaspoon salt, to taste
1/8 teaspoon garlic powder

Homemade Ranch Dressing from The Pioneer Woman Cooks
1/4 teaspoon kosher salt
1 garlic clove, chopped
1 cup real mayonnaise
1/2 cup sour cream
1/4 to 1/2 cup milk or buttermilk, depending on how thick you want the dressing
1/4 cup chopped flat-leaf parsley
1 tablespoon chopped fresh chives
2 tablespoons chopped fresh dill
1/2 teaspoon distilled white vinegar
1/2 teaspoon Worcestershire sauce
1/8 teaspoon cayenne pepper
1/4 teaspoon paprika
1/2 teaspoon black pepper
Dash of hot sauce (optional)
1. Sprinkle the salt over the garlic.
2. With a fork, mash the garlic and salt together to make a paste. The finer the better, as the garlic is very strong in the finished dressing.
3. Add all the remaining ingredients to a bowl.
4. Stir together gently, adjusting the seasonings as needed. Chill for at least 2 hours before serving. Thin with milk if needed.

Basic Dressing from Weston A. Price Foundation
1. Dip fork in mustard; scoop out about 1 teaspoon; place in a bowl.
2. Add 2-1/2 tablespoons vinegar.
3. Add 1/2 cup olive oil while whisking with the fork.

Thousand Island Dressing from Trisha Yearwood's Georgia cooking in an Oklahoma Kitchen
1/2 cup mayonnaise
3 tablespoons ketchup
Dash of Tabasco sauce
Dash of black pepper
1 tablespoon sweet relish
Whisk together and drizzle over salad.

Taco Salad
mixed greens
1 can red kidney beans or black beans, drained and rinsed
1/4 cup chopped green onions
salsa, to taste
Combine all ingredients. Shredded cheese, baked tortilla chips, and sour cream may be added.

[thepurplepoodle]

Toni - my goodness! Thank you so much for taking the time to type up all those recipes. I feel blessed. What a nice way to start the day! I will have to give some of those a try.

[okiemama]

Well, I needed to make a list of dressings, so I thought why not post it then print it for myself. Glad I could be of help!

[thepurplepoodle]

OK - following this plan pretty much to the letter the last few days I've discovered that this is just too much food for me to eat! So, I'm going to cut back on the portions some, but still try to keep everything balanced and see what happens. I will say that I have actually been sleeping much better the last two nights. I have had some pretty big issues with not sleeping well (waking up too many times to count.) So, that is VERY encouraging to me! What a joy it is to wake up when the alarm goes off and realize that you were actually completely sleeping - like out cold! I was pleasantly shocked!

How is everyone else doing? Hope all is well!

[BlessedMama]

That's great, Wendy!

Yeah, I am finding it's too much for me, too!

I didn't do so well yesterday or today, but I'm going to keep trying! I'm considering going gluten free again, too.

I have found a new love for a snack--vanilla yogurt with coconut (the smaller dessicated kind from Tropical Traditions) and sliced almonds on top! :licklips:

If I'd quit being lazy, I could add some frozen blueberries to make it a perfect SB snack! :laughing:

[Callicrowe]

Yesterday I wasn't supposed to have chocolate much because of a medical test I was doing, so I chose oatmeal for breakfast instead of my usual chocolate-banana green smoothie. I really enjoyed the oatmeal, but I still missed the smoothie, so today I made a smoothie, put half in the freezer for another time, and later in the morning made a smaller portion of oatmeal. Between the smoothie and the oatmeal I had a lot of different foods... bananas, mango, almond butter, coconut milk, cocoa, non-whey protein powder, hemp hearts, chia seeds, walnuts, blueberries, oats, raisins, and greens.

Dinner was yummy, too... grilled chicken tenders dipped in BBQ sauce, green beans, and mashed sweet potatoes with chopped pecans. Mmmmm. Don't know if it followed SB, but it sure was good!

Still haven't gotten into the books much yet (I have too many books I want to read!!) but Jennifer told me that one of the books explains about the adrenal tests, so I want to get into that and learn about the test I just did.

So does SB have "suggestions" about how much you are supposed to eat as well as what kinds of foods? I keep hearing you guys talk about "too much" food.

[thepurplepoodle]

Well, for example, a breakfast on the sample menu calls for scrambled eggs (I assume 2 since it is plural) and nitrite-free sausages (again plural - so I had 2) and 2/3 C oatmeal with butter and cream. I made this, and had and was sooooo stuffed. Then you're supposed to have a snack mid-morning, Lunch, another snack and dinner too. I've made a few dinners from the cookbook. The food has been very good. It just seems like too much. I think that 1 egg, 1 sausage, and 1/2 C oatmeal with butter and coconut milk would be more than enough for me. Plus, I'm drinking a lot of water, and that keeps me full too. I'm sure that it will take trial and error to figure out what is the best for me - and that everyone is different - so what is right for me might not be right for someone else.

The snack sizes seem right - just the meals that are too much, at least for me for now.

[BlessedMama]

Wendy, I'm thinking as long as we keep it in balance, and shoot for optimal amount of protein, we're still going to be doing better than before! :)

Also, by eating the snacks, too, at least the protein will be spread out over the day. I figured out that even if I couldn't eat all I'm "supposed" to throughout the day, by keeping up on the protein at each meal/snack I will be getting more than I am now!

[Callicrowe]

Wendy, that sounds like it would be too much for me, too. I would just go for the correct balance at each meal. I'm supposed to be increasing my water, too, and it makes me feel full. I'm sure if you do what feels best for you, following the principles, you'll be way ahead of the game.

[OzFriend]

I can't remember if all of the books do this but TSP II has lists of how to count portions eg 1/2 medium baked potato is 15g carbohydrates, or a deck of cards sized portion of meat is (I think) 40g protein so it's very helpful for working out the size of my meals.

[eshlemania]

I just ordered all her books off Amazon. Got used books, $12 with shipping. :D I only have The Program and it's the library's.

Portions are going to be a problem for me also. I am in the very active category, so I am to have 35 gm of carbs for each snack. YIKES!! I have worked in a few snacks, not the 35 gm ones though. The Program has a list of snacks, size and carb count.

I love the cookbook. I have made several recipes and they were quite yummy. I love the different twist I am finding in the recipes. This cookbook does not have like recipes. They are different and look so good. Gonna make more.

[Callicrowe]

I tried something new today and liked it! I made a small bowl of oatmeal with a few raisins and dried blueberries, a touch of maple syrup, almond milk, and some hemp hearts and chia seed for extra protein. I still didn't think there was enough protein. I remembered reading on a blog about poaching an egg and putting it on top of the oatmeal. Well, I've never poached an egg in my life, but decided to try it anyway. Looked up online "how to poach an egg" and it was easy, and the resulting dish was very yummy. There were no veggies, but I had had a small green smoothie earlier, so that was at least some veggies. (I wonder what category hemp hearts would be? It's basically a seed, so is that considered protein?)

[eshlemania]

I have come to a 'realization.' For supper yesterday, I had a regular to a little bigger sized supper to use up the rest of the stuff in the pot. When I work in the snacks, I need to eat a lighter meal than usual. I still had that 'realization' when I went to bed. You know, that full feeling. I should have done some HD's, I know, but didn't think of it. I am also having trouble working in those non starchy vegies that she wants you to eat every snack and meal.

Can't wait to get the rest of the books. Maybe it will help fill out some of my knowledge.

[thepurplepoodle]

I have a confession to make...I LOVE fried potatoes! I mean it. Seriously! I have been living a lower carb (probably too low) lifestyle for over a year now. After reading TSB I realized I had to add some carbs in. She even writes that you can have one small or 1/2 a med. potato with steak and (or) eggs. Now all that would be too much for me to eat - steak just doesn't sound for me. So for breakfast yesterday I had 2 scrambled eggs and fried up one small red potato with a pinch of bacon and onion (protein, carbs, and fats.) I felt like I had died and gone to heaven! I very, very rarely eat a potato. If I do it's usually a bit of sweet potato (I also adore those!) So, the freedom to have a small potato with my breakfast was quite liberating! Guess what I had this morning for breakfast - LOL! Now, I know I have to rotate my foods and all - so I promise not to eat the same thing everyday. Just wanted to share a simple joy.

Happy Saturday!

[ayj67]

Make sure to leave the skin on for both type of potatoes, that is where the nuritients are. Soak and scrub, no peeling (YaY!!!).

Garlic mash pototoes with potatoes skin on is also good, evoo, two cloves of raw peeled garlic, put them all in the blender when the potatoes is cooked and hot (no need to roast the garlic separately), all in the blender (a little milk for consistency).

Sweet mash pototoes with skin, add a litte coconut milk (or coconut oil) and some cinnamon powder, goes into the blender too.

[thepurplepoodle]

:licklips:Agreed! I always buy organic and leave the skins on. Hoping for a little extra fiber that way!

[eshlemania]

I'm like you, Wendy. I've been eating low carb for some time now. I bought 2 small potatoes for eating this week. I can't wait!! Hey, after the potato has been cooked, you can fry them up together in those scrambled eggs. Yum, yum!!

[Callicrowe]

Wendy, that sounds yummy! I don't eat a lot of potatoes (somewhere along the way they were made a villain, and I am left with confusion about them). Now and then I like to have them, though, and it does sound good with eggs in the morning. I like them cut in cubes, tossed in olive oil, and roasted. Mmmm.

[thepurplepoodle]

I just found a perfect SB snack (or breakfast) for Valentine's Day (or anytime)... Fage Total Greek Yogurt with Cherry. 17g carbs, 8g protein, and absolutely totally delicious!!!! I've never had one before as I usually do plain yogurt with fresh fruit. But I must say that it was very, very yummy! I just had one for lunch. They are $1.00 on sale right now at Kroger stores.

It's funny - I'm starting to wonder if my taste buds are changing or something...because everything just tastes so darn good lately! LOL!

Off to finish making some homemade chicken soup for dinner!

[Tjecan]

I was told by my functional health doctor that Yukon Gold potatos are not considered white potatoes (have yellowish flesh) and are healthier for you. Can anyone confirm that?

[Callicrowe]

Here's an article about it. Might be helpful.

http://whfoods.org/genpage.php?tname=dailytip&dbid=122

[ayj67]

Since we are onto the subject of skin (where most of the nurtient is) washing, scrubbing, and organic price, here is an interesting for vinegar and lemon juice and baking soda as vegetable cleaner.

http://www.suite101.com/content/how-to-wash-pesticides-off-fruit-vegetables-a174074

[BlessedMama]

Wendy, I'll have to check that yogurt out! Especially since our goatie girls are on the downswing getting ready for spring kidding!

Aurora, thanks for that link! Very easy and simple vegetable/fruit washes!

I need to get back to my SP reading!

[eshlemania]

Ok, I have actually been doing this consistantly since Mon. Getting snacks in, etc. I still am not sleeping well, but my hands are not as dry as they were and I have some water on one knee that has almost disappeared. I want to tell you that I am NOT hungry. And I have no cravings. I am wondering about my protein count. I may experiment next week or so, if I am still not sleeping, in getting more protein.

[BlessedMama]

Wow, Bev! That is great!

Hopefully you can get some better sleep soon! Maybe some things take longer to shift and change?

[thepurplepoodle]

I'm not sure what to do. I want to do the SB plan. But now, with the diagnosis of "leaky gut" my practitioner suggested following the SCD (Specific Carbohydrates Plan.) I will be researching the differences between the two and see if there is any way to combine them or balance them. Bummer - just when you think you've got it all figured out....

[Callicrowe]

I'm not sure what to do. I want to do the SB plan. But now, with the diagnosis of "leaky gut" my practitioner suggested following the SCD (Specific Carbohydrates Plan.) I will be researching the differences between the two and see if there is any way to combine them or balance them. Bummer - just when you think you've got it all figured out....

I agree... that's a bummer. Hope you find what's right for you.

[eshlemania]

Peggy, I just found some chia seeds on my trip east to visit my parents. What can I do with them??

I spent a week eating so much food before I went on my trip doing the SP. Didn't gain much if any inches. I got to Pa and found that the diet EVERYONE eats in there is minimal protein and maximum carbs-sugar in everything. I really didn't notice it before. My brother who just had open heart surgery is going down the low fat, low protein and high carb diet. I tried to talk to him about getting more protein. It didn't take. I will probably wait and try again later. I may purchase one of the books and send it to my SIL and let her read it and decide what to do.

Anyway, I decided to embrace their eating while there, except for eating out for breakfast. I got to choose there. But my body reacted so much better to it than before. It usually bloated and gained while there. I didn't do that this time. Now I am back home and eating well again. Back on track.

I did read in her first book that if you were eating more than 15 carbs at a setting that you didn't have to eat the snacks unless you were hungry. Does she change that in the later books?

[BlessedMama]

Bev, I'll look into my books (if I get a chance!). I was just thinking now that I'm home I need to get refocused on this.

How wonderful that your body didn't react as much! Wow! Must mean some inner healing is already starting? So sorry about your family not listening--especially your brother. I canNOT believe the medical profession would continue to promote such a diet! Maybe he would read her book(s) since she is a doctor?

I have the same issues with my mil. I try to gently tell her she needs protein in her breakfast, but she doesn't like yogurt, is sick of eggs, blah blah blah. I think I already posted this, but when she had her mild heart attack a year and a half ago, she was picking the next day's breakfast. Cream of wheat, juice, toast. I asked her, "Where's your protein?" I told her at least to have peanut butter on the toast!

Ah, well!

My goal this next week or so is to get breakfast back on track. And probably my morning snack--I will probably have the snack first! LOL! Just not able to choke down a big breakfast first thing in the morning--and that may be related to the way I've eaten the past few years!

[Callicrowe]

Bev, I add chia seeds to my smoothies, oatmeal (after it's cooked), sprinkle it on my salads, and sometimes make chia pudding, but haven't done that for a while. Somewhere on here there is more information about that. Chia, when it is moistened, gets very gelatinous, so keep that in mind when you're adding it to stuff to make sure you're OK with that... it's a different "texture". I like it because it's a good way to get more protein, and it's good for the digestive system as well.

[mybestme]

I checked out the books from the library. So much reading for the time I'm allowed to have them! She is very in depth, and I found it hard to wade through without alot of thought. Anyway, I liked what she said and it made sense and I started eating with her principles in mind. Then I went to the doctor, who found I have high cholesterol. She wanted to put me on medication for it. I decided to try to change my numbers without medication. Heard about Dr. John McDougall. He advocates exactly what Schwarbein says is harmful. No meat of any kind, very low fat, and high in carbs. His theories don't sound right for me. For one thing, he uses alot of soy in his diet, and I have family history of breast cancer, for which soy is not the best thing. I would much rather follow Shwarbein, but I'm conflicted about eating the eggs and meat for now. McDougall says that there are people dying of heart attacks whose cholesterol numbers look ok. I just don't know how to assess whether what I'm doing is the best for my health or not.

[BlessedMama]

Mybestme, it is tough when there are conflicting thoughts out there!

I don't know much about Dr. McDougall, but I've read all of Dr. S's books and she has nearly 20 years of experience helping people. I would think if people were dying of heart attacks using her protocol, she'd be out of business!

I think, also, it depends what else you're eating. If you're eating a lot of high trans-fat fast food or meat that is laden with who-knows-what, then yes, that might not be best. But quite honestly, neither is pesticide-laden produce. Soy--yeah, I stay away from it, too. I realize the naturally fermented stuff is okay, but considering soy is a highly GMO crop here in the States, I shy away. I did use a lot of good quality tofu 15 or so years ago, and did not feel it worked best for me.

You'll have to decide for yourself, but from what my personal trainer's manual from the ISSA said, what Dr. S. says and what I've watched in my friends that "diet", I don't go for high carbs. We do need some carbs, in proper balance. I've sent myself into an adrenal crash by not eating enough protein and I've put on belly fat eating too many carbs (and I don't eat junk food).

That's my experience, and I guess I'll stick to Dr. S! I also would suppor the Weston Price Foundation model, although I'm sure Dr. McDougall would not agree. Thing is I have two dds that absolutely PROVE Dr. Price right! In fact, in his book, Nutrition and Physical Degeneration, there is a picture of some Pacific Islander boy from the 1930s whose dental arch and crooked teeth looked just like my dd's!!!!! I ate horribly during my pregnancy with her (had lost a baby at 38 weeks before her), and I believe that has a lot to do with her immune issues and her teeth. We have put probably close to $10,000 into her teeth and she is still in braces. She's 19 and has been in some sort of orthodontic appliance for 10 years! She was a really bad case with incisor in the roof of her mouth.

My 11 yodd is the next worst case, and during that pregnancy I ate very low fat due to having my gall bladder out. That is the ONLY thing I did differently. I'm not advocating fats in general, but a good balance of good fats, including coconut oil. I took coconut oil by the spoonful with my pregnancy with 4 yods, and so far, his arch looks really nice compared to his sisters' at that age. I know he is still growing and we'll know more when his permanent teeth come in, but he is the only one of my 9 children who has plenty of space between his baby teeth!

Again-this is just from my experience, and I'm sure there are others who Dr. McDougall has helped, but I will stay in the Schwarzbein/Weston Price camp.

HUGS!

HTH as you research to make your decision!

[thepurplepoodle]

I totally agree with Trisch. The SB principles are balanced. I am also a big fan of the Weston Price Foundation. I love the Nourishing Traditions Cookbook, too. It's al about eating real foods, avoiding the chemicals and keeping things balanced. I am currently doing a candida cleanse, and then hope to go back to eating in the SB way which is very easy to do in keeping with the Weston Price ideas.

[crissykay]

Just bought the #2. Makes total sense. Very balanced! Thanks, Trisch.

[BlessedMama]

You're quite welcome! Please feel free to share your "journey"! :)

I'm hoping this week to get back to focusing on my morning eating. Just had some yogurt--should have eaten earlier but didn't get right up and at it. I have such a tough time eating much in the mornings. I had vanilla yogurt with natural coconut (no sugar) and walnuts. YUM! I should have added some blueberries, but they were frozen...should have added them in half an hour before eating it and it would have been just right! :)

My goal this week is to focus on a good breakfast and morning snack. I may not make both this morning. It will get better--baby steps! ;)


I want to get back to reading and studying the SB books, but T-Tapp mentoring is taking priority right now!

[busymomof10]

This is a very interesting thread. I am trying to read all of the posts -- but there is a lot here! I am on page 13, trying to catch up and glean from what is shared!

I have read the first book. Got it from the library last summer, I think. I need to refresh on the details, but isn't the Sch. diet very low carb, even though she says not to cut out carbs? I thought I remembered that you could only have like 15 or 20 grams of carbs per meal and less per snack. Is that correct?

[BlessedMama]

Elizabeth, there are different variations depending on your needs. There are meals from 15-30 gr. per meal and snacks from 7 1/2 - 25 gr per snack. I also consider T-Tapp to make your activity level higher. I consider it "strenous" exercise, comparatively speaking. No, I'm not exercising 5 or more hours a week, but T-Tapp is different!

The Transition (or Schwarzbein Principle II ) really helps you understand it all, and I think she adds more carbs in than her original book. She even says on p. 390 of this book:

"It is very important to match your energy input with your energy output. Any amount of exercise is too much if you are not eating well. If you do not eat enough food, your adrenaline/cortisol levels will be higher. Be careful not to fall into the trap of feeling good when you are using up your biochemicals because of adrenaline and cortisol. You will feel good initially and even feel stronger because of your higher adrenaline/cortisol levels. Eventually, however, you will burn out."


I confess I am not strict about it right now. Even when I was more consistent a year ago, I was not fanatical about counting carbs. I usually have more carbs with supper because I don't expect my whole family to eat this way. My biggest problem was I was eating waaayyyy too many carbs and waaayyyyy too little protein....and the veggies were nearly nonextistent!

I'm trying to get back to it, focusing right now on the "morning" meal/snack. As I get that in place, I will focus more on lunch and afternoon snack. Then I plan to just make good choices with what my dds fix for supper (since they're in charge!), but encouraging more veggie intake!

I think if you are really battling severe adrenal exhaustion, it would be good to be much more strict on this. I'm amazed at how much better I'm feeling just focusing on the protein for now. I can only imagine how much more when I get my veggie intake up, too!

My friend Bev is more consistent than me lately, and she says it well--you will not go hungry! :)

HTH!

[eshlemania]

One thing I read in the second book. If you are not sleeping well, add carbs!! I had cut out the snacks when things got busy. Now I am adding them back in. And not skimping on carbs. I come from low carb background, so it's easy to fall into. I think she makes so much sense-eating balanced.

I can tell now that I am insulin sensitive as I have started having low sugar responses when I don't eat in time. The second book gives you so much info that you need to place yourself. I am placing myself on insulin sensitive and adrenal stressed. Five years ago I had panic attacks etc. I think that my adrenals have been healing since then, but are not completely healed. So this is definitely my next step of healing.

:D:D

[Gina Giannattasio]

I skimmed through the books at the bookstore, and really liked it, but I don't yet have the money to buy. I did, however, find The Program at my library. Unfortunately, it's the only one of the three they have, so it'll have to do, for now. I went ahead and checked it out. I guess it's better than nothing. I'm sure I'll get some insight from it, despite not having read the prerequesites.

[BlessedMama]

Gina, it will still be helpful! You'll get the gist of it and when you can get one of the other two, you can dive into the "Nuts and bolts" behind it all!

I keep trying to get my mornings straightened out--I am doing better, but the past few days TOM was making it hard to sleep so I slept in more. Therefore only got in a small breakfast and no snack, time-wise. But I'm trying to do better in my choices...if only my dds didn't make these dessert-like yummy chocolate muffins during my TOM! :licklips:

But I'll get there! :)

[Gina Giannattasio]

Trisch, chocolate is good for you during TOM!

[BlessedMama]

Very true! ;)

Most of the time I eat Endangered Species dark chocolate with cacao nibs, so it's not waxy milk chocolate! Dark chocolate is good for you, right?!

I got out my Transition book and have little marker sticky notes all OVER the place! I'll have to post some of the tidbits that are really sticking out to me!

I feel better about eating a good breakfast this week. I just was having an aversion to eggs for awhile for some reason! But I'm looking forward to having scrambled eggs with some spinach in them. Right now I don't have a gf bread, but I'm going to try to not eat so many cakey muffins! :rolleyes:

I even have some ideas for better lunches. AND more veggies! If I get a whole day in doing well, that will be great! But my focus is just mornings for now!

[busymomof10]

Trisch, I would love to hear you describe what you eat (or would eat, ideally) for a day based on S. principles. Also, what would you eat before/after working out that would stay with her principles. and how would you time your workouts? Thanks!

[eshlemania]

Ok, I went to my massage therapist, she practices kinesiology also, and I tested strongest for the insulin resistant with healthy adrenals. I asked her about the insulin resistant part of it and she said there was something about the way this chapter in Transition did things that was good for me. Not necessarily that I had insulin resistance. So, that is the way I am going to eat and see what happens. So far I have not gained inches on this way of eating at all. That makes me happy. :D

I am not Trisch, but I will post what I eat for feedback. I think I'm doing it right.

I have oatmeal or cream of brown rice cereal, 2 eggs and some non-starchy vegies for breakfast. 1/2 C goat yogurt with fresh blueberries.

Lunch:salad, chicken/fish/beef/soup, lima beans/sweet potatoes/rice

Snack:apple, almond butter, carrot sticks/peppers/celery

Supper: pretty much the same as lunch.

I still don't always get a snack in the morning.

I am very active so I get 10-12 gm protein a day and aim for 30gm carbs each time I eat.

[BlessedMama]

That's great, Bev!

Elizabeth, I'm not ignoring your request! I'm actually mapping out a "doable for me" plan and will post soon! I was gone this morning longer than I thought I'd be and you know how the rest of the day goes when that happens! :p

If not today, I'll post my "plan" tomorrow! :)

[busymomof10]

Thanks Trisch!

[busymomof10]

Thank you for posting your sample menu! How did your massage therapist know that you are insulin resistant with healthy adrenals??? What kind of test did she do?

[eshlemania]

She muscle tests, you know, like you can do for vitamins and minerals to see if they will work with your body. She said I tested strongest for that chapter. I can;t afford any of the other testing, so I thought I would try this.

[Gina Giannattasio]

I was finally able to pick up The Program at the library. I wish they had the others there, but I ordered the entire set on Amazon last night, so hopefully, I'll be seeing those soon.

I was trying to figure out where I am, metabolically. It looks like my adrenals are fine. As far as my insulin, I take into account that I'm not diabetic to mean that I'm insulin sensitive. But, then again, I did have gestational diabetes when I was pregnant, which indicates that I am at risk of developing diabetes later on. So, I'm going to consider myself halfway between sensitive and resistant.

The chapter on toxic chemicals (alcohol, tobacco, caffeine etc.) was a wake up call for me. She has a list of toxic chemicals, going from the worst to the "best" (least of the evils, anyway). Dr. S doesn't recommend quitting toxic chemicals cold turkey. Instead, she recommends substituting something on the top of the list for something on the bottom for awhile. For instance, substitute nicotine (which is near the top of the list) for, say, a prescribed patch (prescription meds are at the bottom of the list).

The wake up call for me is that table sugar is considered a toxin. Sure, I knew that too much of it was bad for you, but I never thought of it as a toxic chemical. I mean, you use it to bake cookies, for crying out loud! It ranks in the middle, though, so it's not the worst on the list. And, it's still better than artificial sweeteners. I was, however, surprise to find that it ranks above chemical preservatives.

Anyway, I can't wait to really start reading up on this stuff.

[Gina Giannattasio]

I absolutely LOVE this quote from her website.


"Moreover, American society's preoccupation with numbers-whether referring to chronological age, total cholesterol numbers or the number on the bathroom scale-has wrought devastating results. Many popular books offer programs that require time-consuming computations and obsessive measuring and focus on food. But my experience with patients demonstrates that, ironically, the more a person obsesses about numbers the more likely he or she is to engage in harmful behaviors that generate chronic health problems and disease. One of my goals as a physician is to change our culture's fixation on meaningless numbers to an emphasis on quality of life."

I keep telling people that the secret to my success was to stop obsessing over numbers. When I threw my scale in the dumpster, along with my tape measures (*clears throat* and my fat caliper :o), that's when I finally started to see results.

[BlessedMama]

Beautiful, Gina! I love that quote, too!

btw--when you get the vegetarian cookbook, DO share if you find some yummy recipes! I'm not against adding some vegetarian dishes into our meal plans! :)

[busymomof10]

That is really a thought-provoking quote! We all tend to put a lot of stock in the numbers! (I'm thinking that churches get caught up in the same snare!!!)

Sometimes "the numbers" are all that doctors care about though . . . .

Currently my dh is concerned because his numbers have gone up -- both on the scale and for his blood pressure. since I have learned to be skeptical of the average medical experts prescription for health, I'm wondering what the Real Answer is for helping him lower his BP. (I don't think his weight is reallly much of an issue. He is VERY TALL and slim, but he has put a bit of weight on around his middle the last couple years. i'm sort of thinking it might be his nightly bowl of ice cream!!) :)

[eshlemania]

Well, I had some white flour and sugar last night in the form of a coffee cake for the first time in about a month, this morning I was coughing and clearing my throat like forever and reminded what glutin does to me. I like this diet. I can do it and I am not hungry and I don't crave things. :D:D

[Gina Giannattasio]

Worrying about numbers creates stress; stress keeps you from losing weight.

Honestly, my goal is to make a doctor's jaw drop the next time I'm asked to step on a scale. (Not that I plan on going to the doctor anytime soon. But, it's inevitable that I will have to go someday, for some reason, and, when I do, he's gonna want to check my weight, because that's what doctors do. And, when that happens, I want to hear him say, "No way you weigh that much!")

Hee, heh, heh, heh! :laughing::laughing::laughing::laughing:

[Gina Giannattasio]

Okay...well...as I read this book, I'm realizing how much of an overhaul my diet needs. I typically eat only when I'm hungry, and, apparently, that's a bad thing to do. I've never given much thought to balancing my meals, so I'll have to learn to do that. Plus, my beverage of choice is sweet tea (I just love the stuff--I'm from the South :D), and that's a no-no.

I wonder how much error is allowed during the healing process, because I'm sure to slip up every now and then.

Plus, you're not supposed to undertake all five steps at once. But I'm already exercising, and that's the fourth step. :confused::help:

[ayj67]

Gina, maybe you can just do one sweet tea a day, and when you have the sweet tea, you have a side of chicken breast and a smaller side of brocoli, make it a small meal out of it, and not more starchy things with that meals. So, you have carb, protein, fiber, fat (cook your vege with oil, most nurtients needs oil to be absorbed by human body). You will have a smaller dinner or lunch.

Cane sugar is better than artificial sweetener if you cannot do Stevia.

[BlessedMama]

Gina, I am not 100% on this. Well, of course right now I'm getting back into it! LOL!

But even when I was mindful of SB principles in my eating, I was not able to be strict. My guess is it will take a bit longer to heal, but I felt so much better after the initial adjusting phase. If I were really wiped out, I would definitely be more strict. I also think T-Tapp exercise is different, and you're already doing it--it's not something you're adding on.

Those are just my random thoughts! :)

Like ayj said, maybe you could cut back the sweet tea a bit?

[Gina Giannattasio]

Yes, I will definitely have to cut back on the sweet tea. But, after further reading, I learned that, since my metabolism is still healthy (amazingly so, considering all the years I spent abusing it), I don't have to cut it out completely. I took the quiz in the back of the book, and, given the results, was instructed to go straight to the Maintenance Plan.

So, it's mostly a matter of learning to balance meals, and manage stress.

I love the chapter that talked about getting more sleep.


"Do you have a new baby? There's not much that can be done about that right now."

Ugh! It took nineteen months before my son started sleeping through the night! He's twenty-one months old now.

[BlessedMama]

LOL!

And then they get older and guess when they want to talk?! Late at night! I just quit worrying too much about my sleep! :laughing:

[Gina Giannattasio]

"Do you have a new baby? There's not much that can be done about that right now."


Ugh! Shut up!

[BlessedMama]

LOL! At least she's honest!

[busymomof10]

Trisch,

That is So True!! Hardest year of my life was the year I had a new baby and a teenager that loved to talk late a night! I would stay up past midnight talking to her and as soon as I got to sleep I would hear the baby cry to nurse!!! I was Exhuasted!!!

And yes, Gina, that sweet tea is hard for a southern girl to give up! What I've learned to do is to have it maybe just once a week on Sundays or Saturday nights or maybe just when eating out. That way you still get it occasionally as a treat, but not daily!