I found a good explanation of scar tissue

[JaneB]

http://www.essentialtherapync.com/scartissue.html

Have been doing a lot of scar tissue release lately. Thought this article was a really good explanation.

[TNVicki]

Very interesting, Jane! Thanks for posting this!

[WendyD]

Thanks for sharing.

I believe systemic enzymes are supposed to help, but I don't have first hand experience.

[Tamra]

Thank you, Jane, for an interesting link. With a relatively scar after a surgery I am really really interested in the topic

[fruitvine]

Thanks so much, Jane--very interesting and useful information as usual!

[jen6]

Wow, interesting stuff! Ironic that I just had a surgery on Monday to cut out scar tissue that was causing problems. Now I feel new stuff forming and it is really thick and cordy feeling! :( Wonder if this is something I can do myself? :confused:

[pamelaw]

This information dovetails with Dr. Wong's information. I take his Zymessence and it has been such a big, big help with all my excess fibrin issues. A daily dose for one person for 6 months is only a total of $80.00. HTH

[eshlemania]

I have had 4 c-sections and was told at the last one that I have a lot of scar tissue in my abdomen. My bladder has adhered to the uterus and other things have adhered together in ways that were never meant to be. I talked to Kirsten about it when I went to her clinic in IN. She said that t-tapp-OIP-may actually help to loosen some of that. So, your link was very informing and I want to thank you for sharing. I'm going to print it out and take it to my massage therapist and see if she knows what can help loosen some of that-even though my last c-section was 19 yrs ago.

You know, t-tapp addresses tons of issues. I love it!! Thank you, Teresa!

[gillmings]

I never thought my 20 year old gallbladder scar was that bad but my Bio-Energetic doc did. He said it was a sign of low zinc to heal that way, which bears out with the testing he has done. He's working to balance my zinc and copper and he did a procedure to clean up the scar tissue because it was causing an energetic block. He put in a needle horizontally, just under the tissue, and injected a solution of saline and lidocaine. He said it wakes up the body to clean up the scar tissue and scars actually start looking better after a few months. I don't care how it looks, 'cause it's covered, but I'm all for clearing energy blocks!

Pamela, where are you getting Zymessence that cheaply?? His website lists it as $90 for two months. Am I missing something? I'd really like to try it, but that's a lot of money.

[pamelaw]

If one takes only one capsule (which is all I take for now, but may up it if we conceive) it's a six month supply for one person (180 tablets divided by 30 days a month). Here is where I order it from:

http://www.vitaminsupplyusa.com/shop/item.asp?itemid=2688&gclid=CPHc_rHtgpwCFShRagod-DiV_A

I'm thinking of upping it anyway, even though I'm doing so much better with just ONE a day on an empty stomach.

I may take two a day, but will see. I take a lot of natural salicylates for my prothrombine issues and with all I'm doing, wow, for me, what a difference!:clappinghands: I feel like Marty Feldman ought to be shouting: She's alive!!:laughing:

[MommyRose]

Pamela, the Zymessence is helpful in breaking up scar tissues? I don't know if that's an issue for me but I have had a c-section and a gallbladder surgery so their must be scars inside as well as out. Is this just an enzyme or is it also a probiotic? I'm confused as I thought I'd read that. I wonder if a good enzyme could help me in clearing up my pains...I looked into it last week from one of your posts but shied away at putting more $$ out to 'see'.

[JaneB]

Check out castor oil packs for scar tissue. Very cost effective. I use it to loosen adhesions, etc.
Organs in place is good too. Your massage therapist should have learned some scar release techniques in school.

p.s. I worked on a client with 5 prior C-sections and one gall bladder surgery. Scar tissue/adhesions all pliable after 2 one hour treatments. Both one hour treatments were full body massages with specific work on the abdomen (castor oil packs included).

[eshlemania]

Jane, that gives me hope. I'm going to talk to my massage therapist to see if she can do it. Castor oil packs sound pretty cost effective also. thanks bunches for the info.

[gillmings]

Okay, thanks for clarifying. I went ahead and ordered directly from Dr. Wong because I'm only a few hours from their office and should get them by tomorrow. I figure even if my doc doesn't want me to take them daily, I'd rather take that than ibuprofen (which doesn't really touch it anyway) when I have a flare-up like I'm having right now. Then, when I see my doc next week, I can report my results. I'm in pain and it's making me really grumpy, so I hope they get here FAST!;)

[Lori French]

My chiro says part of my issues are related to energy blockage at scars. I'm to massage each scar for four minutes, different times for different people, once a day with wheat germ oil, squeezed out of capsules, keeps it fresher, he says. Anyway after about three months, he saw seen significant improvements. Now if I was as consistent, as I was early on, the energy field may have been cleared, even quicker. This includes most all scars, for me, including episiotomy scars, an often forgotten one.

Teresa suggested my DD with, massive, abdominal, painful scar tissue, to work through the pain with OIP. DD says the pain is too much. I'm curious about all these ideas. Knowing she will someday want to get pregnant and how the scar tissue may affect the whole pregnancy and birth.....

[pamelaw]

This is just a portion of an older article by Dr. Wong: (http://www.life-enthusiast.com/index/Articles/Wong/Enzymes)

Anti Fibrosis

Enzymes eat scar tissue and fibrosis 7. Fibrosis is scar tissue and most doctors learn in anatomy that it is fibrosis that eventually kills us all. Let me explain. As we age, which starts at 27, we have a diminishing of the body?s output of enzymes. This is because we make a finite amount of enzymes in a lifetime and we use up a good deal of them by the time we are 27. At that point the body knows that if it keeps up that rate of consumption we'll run plum out of enzymes and be stone cold dead by the time we reach our 40s. (Cystic Fibrosis patients, who have virtually no enzyme production to speak of, even as children, usually don't make it past their 20s before they die of the restriction and shrinkage in the lungs from the formation of fibrosis or scar tissue).
So our body in its wisdom begins to dole out our enzymes with an eyedropper instead of with a tablespoon; the result is the repair mechanism of the body goes off balance and has nothing to reduce the over abundance of fibrin it deposits in nearly every thing from simple cuts, to the inside of our internal organs and blood vessels. It is then when most women begin to develop things like fibrocystic breast disease, uterine fibroids, endometriosis, and we all grow arterial sclerotic (meaning scar tissue) plaque, and have fibrin begin to spider web its way inside of our internal organs reducing their size and function over time. This is why as we age our wounds heal with thicker, less pliable, weaker and with very visible scars.
If we replace the lost enzymes we can control and reduce the amount of scar tissue and fibrosis our bodies have. As physicians in the US are now discovering, even old scar tissue can be "eaten away" from surgical wounds, pulmonary fibrosis, kidney fibrosis even keloid years after its formation. Medical doctors in Europe and Asia have known this and used orally administered enzymes for such for over 40 years!
Blood Cleansing

The blood is not only the river of life, it is also the river through which the cells and organs dispose of their garbage and dead material. Enzymes improve circulation by eating the excess fibrin that causes blood to sometimes get as thick as catsup or yogurt creating the perfect environment for the formation of clots. All of this material is supposed to be cleaned off by the liver on "first pass" or the first time it goes through, but given the sluggish and near toxic or toxic state of everyone?s liver these days, that seldom happens. So the sludge remains in the blood, waiting for the liver to have enough free working space and enough enzymes to clean the trash out of the blood. This can take days, and for some folks, weeks! 8
When systemic enzymes are taken they stand ready in the blood and take the strain off of the liver by:


Cleaning excess fibrin from the blood and reducing the stickiness of blood cells. These two actions minimize the leading causes of stroke and heart attack causing blood clots 8.
Breaking dead material down small enough that it can immediately pass into the bowel 8.
Cleanse the FC receptors on the white blood cells improving their function and availability to fight off infection 9.

And here we come to the only warning we have to give concerning the use of systemic enzyme - don't use the product if you are a hemophiliac or are on prescription blood thinners like Coumadin, Heparin and Plavix. The enzymes cause the drugs to work better so there is the possibility of thinning the blood too much.
Immune System Modulating

Enzymes are adaptogenic, seeking to restore a steady state to the body9. When the immune system is running low we become susceptible to infectious disease; when it cranked up too high then the system creates antibodies that attack its own tissues as is seen in the auto immune diseases of MS, Rheumatoid Arthritis, and Lupus. Here therapeutic dosing of oral administered systemic enzymes will tone down immune function and eat away at the antibodies the immune system is making to attack its body's own tissue.
When the immune system is run down too low the enzymes increase immune response, producing more Natural Killer cells, and improving the efficiency of the white blood cells, all leading to improved immunity.
Virus Fighting

Viruses harm us by replicating in our bodies. To do this, a virus must bond itself to the DNA in our cells through the medium of its exterior protein cell wall. Anything that disrupts that cell wall inhibits the ability of that virus?s viral replication by rendering individual viruses inert 10, 11. Systemic enzymes can tell the difference between the proteins that are supposed to be in your body and those that are foreign or not supposed to be there, (again the enzyme lock and key mechanism). Even now the US Military has developed a proteolytic enzyme blend to be used as an anti biological warfare agent against Anthrax and viruses.
As can be seen the primary actions of proteolytic actions are impressive and hold great promise for health and medical applications.
Though the bulk of body-wide enzyme reactions are proteolytic, the remaining systemic enzyme, lipase performs some important jobs as well. The most important action of lipase lends itself to service in a few different areas:

And there are more articles here: http://www.swagbucks.com/?t=w&p=1&q=excess+fibrin+%2B+dr+wong

HTH:hello2:

[MommyRose]

That does help. Thanks Pamela. :)

[fruitvine]

Don't forget our speaker at the Retreat (Jim Lofthouse) discussed some of these same issues about fibrin and he recommended Wobenzyme to help (he took 50/day after his shoulder surgery). He recommended 5 capsules 3x day on an empty stomach for 10 days to normalize A2M, then 3 capsules 2x day.

And I second the castor oil pack recommendation.