Anyone see the TODAY Show this morning?

[schoonma]

I put this on Nutrition/Diet Forum but maybe it should be here....

It was talking about how we are all lacking VITAMIN D and that we should be taking 3 fold (or more) what is recommended by the RDA Couldn't believe it as we have all been discussing this. I was just telling my DH about the gal on this board who was diagnosed by her Dr. as being severely Vit. D defficient and then whammo it was on the Today Show.

Mary Ann

[myCelia]

I think RDA can safely be referred to as 'Really Dumb Assumption', especially in the case of Vitamin D and iodine. The RDA for iodine is 150 MICROgrams but the Japanese typically consume 12.5 MILLIgrams/day (see the Halogen Imbalance Syndrome (http://forum.t-tapp.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=53416) thread for more information.) Is it a coincidence the Japanese have lower rates of thyroid disease/disorders, PCOS, fibrocystic breast disease and breast cancer? I think not.

Derya

ETA: Reposting here.

[Judybats]

Wow. I think I will check into some supplements. My best friend has an under active thyroid and she said her dr. said she should avoid iodine? After reading about it that does not sound right and I told her but she insists she should avoid it. She will not eat any seafood at all.
Judy

[mindymp]

I recently read an article linking the winter blues and D. It is also linked to osteoarthritis. This has been a biggie for me. A doc friend of mine said we should probably be taking over 1000 IU a day if we are close to menopause. All these years I've worried about getting too much. Go figure.
Malinda

[Heather73]

quote:Patients in North America may be exposed to excess iodine through dietary supplements, drugs such as amiodarone (Cordarone), cough and cold remedies, or foods such as kelp and various preparations containing seaweed extracts. It is important to be aware of potential sources of iodine excess, as this may influence the results of thyroid function testing, including interpretation of blood tests and nuclear medicine studies such as the thyroid scan or iodine uptake.

In some clinical settings, patients with severe hyperthyroidism may actually be treated with iodine for several days, which can also act paradoxically to transiently suppress release of thyroid hormone. Judy, Perhaps this is what the doctor is concerned about and the reason he is having your friend avoid iodine.

The rest of the article is here http://www.mythyroid.com/iodine.html

I probably should supp. with D through the winter, as we get very little sun during that time.

Actually, I started taking D and a B complex almost 2 weeks ago, and it seems to be helping improve my mood and energy levels.

~ A Happy Tapper! ~
Preach not to others what they should eat, but eat as becomes you, and be silent.
-Epictetus

[natrfrk]

Hi everyone! Hi Mary Ann. I wish I had seen that TODAY show.

You know, my OWN Father LAUGHED when I told him about my deficiency! He does NOT believe it. He believes me, that I believe it, but he doesn't believe it....

None of the pharmacies around here carry the RIGHT Vitamin D. They all have D2. I called the doctor's office about that and they said it would be okay, D2 just isn't as potent as D3. But I REFUSE to compromise on my health. I am not filling a prescription with the inferior of the two. Cholecalciferol is the best one for the body. The other one is the one most associated with toxicity. So, I'm not taking the risk. The pharmacy wanted $21 for just the twelve prescribed, and they weren't even the D3. I found online, a product by Bio Tech. It is the full 50,000IU of D3 cholecalciferol. 100 of them for just $23. Just waiting for them to arrive now...

Derya---Love your description of the RDA!

[myCelia]

Iodophobia is rampant in this country and I would strongly suggest reading/listening to the links I posted in the Halogen Imbalance Syndrome thread (http://forum.t-tapp.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=53416). Alright, those are a lot of links. [:p] Here are the two most important IMO, Iodine (http://www.iodine4health.com/index.htm) and Dr. Stan's interview with Dr. Flechas (http://archives.gsradio.net:8080/rliberty/rl01-05-07b.mp3).

BTW, I wonder, what would be considered an excessive amount given the fact that the Japanese eat on average 12.5 MILLIgrams/day? In this country, the main source of stable iodine is iodized salt, which nearly half the population have given up in their efforts to manage hypertension. Part of this particular population has turned to unrefined sea salts but there's barely enough iodine in it to meet the abysmally low RDA of 150 MICROgrams/day (nearly 100x less than the Japanese average).

I seriously doubt most mainstream doctors have even heard of Drs. Abraham, Brownstein, Flechas and Miller, just to name a few or much about orthoiodosupplementation. As for thyroid problems being correlated to an unspecified "excess" of iodine, here's an excerpt from Dr. Brownstein's book, Iodine, Why You Need It, Why You Can't Live Without It (http://www.amazon.com/Iodine-Without-Brownstein-bottle-Fashioned/dp/B000I2MMSI/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/104-4868681-5005512?ie=UTF8&s=hpc&qid=1173709618&sr=8-1), posted earlier on the Curezone Iodine forum by wombat:

[quote]quote:Concern with using high levels of iodine

"There is some concern that the ingestion of iodine in excess of the RDA will cause adverse effects...there are seven major concerns with using iodine in excess of the RDA:

1) allergy
2) autoimmune thyroid disease
3) detoxification reactions
4) iodine-induced hypothyroidism and goiter
5) iodine-induced hyperthyroidism
6) iodism
7) thyroid cancer

1)allergy...
In my experience, an allergy to inorganic iodine/iodide(Lugol's or Iodoral) is rare...an allergy can take any form, including a rash, fatigue, congestion, headache and a fever. NAET, an acupressure technique, has been useful in some of my patients to help them overcome an allergy to iodine..

here's a resource on that:
http://www.naet.com


2)autoimmune thyroid disease...
Some researchers...believe that autoimmune thyroid problems are caused by iodine intake in excess of the RDA...before the adoption of radioactive iodine to treat the side effects of autoimmune thyroid illnesses, the use of higher doses of iodine was the treatment of choice for these illnesses...
If iodine was the cause of autoimmune thyroid illnesses, these illnesses should have been decreasing over the last 30 years. The opposite has occured. In the U.S., iodine levels have fallen approx. 50% over the last 30 yrs while, at the same time, autoimmune thyroid sdisorders have been rapidly increasing.

3) Detoxification reactions...
If the body's detoxification pathways are overloaded when the toxic halides are being released, a detoxification reaction can be triggered. A detoxification reaction can take the form of fatigue, muscle aches, fever, diarrhea, and brain fog, among others...Though a detoxification reaction to iodine usage is RARE, it has happened...can be minimized with nutritional support, balancing pH, balancing hormonal systems.."

***Here's what Brownstein did for a patient suffering detox symptoms***

this portion is in reference to a patient suffering bromide detox symptoms(fatigue, headaches) on 50 gm. per day iodoral.

"...the iodine was helping her body excrete large amounts of bromide. During a detoxification process, the body's detoxification systems need proper support to ensure the toxic chemicals can be safely released without harming the body's tissues. I told Ellen to take large amounts of Vitamin C- 10,000 mg. per day as vitamin C helps all of the body's detoxification pathways func

[QE3]

my doc told me I was deficient last September so I started taking a supplement. Could it be a factor in my weight loss? Bah, I dunno, but I'll keep taking it.

<h5>Kate -:¦:- Queen of Everything plus 3 boys! -:¦:- </h5> Trainer in Training, Houston

[natrfrk]

Derya- Thanks for the link for the e book. I have found several, but I can't get any of them to open. I can open other pdf files, just not these books [V]. Any idea why not? Maybe I need to upgrade?[?]

[myCelia]

Could be. E-mail me and I'll send you a copy in Word format.

Derya :)

[justkim]

Kate,
Take a look at this link;http://lassesen.com/cfids/supplements/vitamin_d.htm
It addresses the symptoms of Vitamin D deficiency. Very interesting how similar it is to hypothyroid symptoms. Hmmm...


Kim

Life is just a bowl of cherries. Don't take it serious, Life's too mysterious...

Editing to add this link as well;
http://www.goodhormonehealth.com/VitaminD.pdf

[QE3]

innnnnteresting Kim. I've upped my cod liver oil consumption to 6,000mg a day in early February too. I wonder if that's been helpful as well.

<h5>Kate -:¦:- Queen of Everything plus 3 boys! -:¦:- </h5> Trainer in Training, Houston